Talk:Degenerated workers' state
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There are times when i despair. Every now and again i glance at wikipedia and think to add something new to it and then read an entry such as this and I despair!
Trots writing about degenerated workers states who do not know that it was Lenin who first developed the idea! What silly comrades you are.
Back in my day we would have reduced you to candidate membership and sent you to a series of educationals. Oh the pity of it.
Jock Haston
[edit] Clarity problems
I think this is a good example of an article which need some clean-up, from someone who knows what they're talking about. For a start, after the first paragraph, no sources are cited. Secondly, if we look at this, from the "Trotskyist definition" section:
- The differences between a deformed workers state and a degenerated workers state is that there are only quantitative deformations in a deformed workers state, and therefore it can, as Trotsky and the Left Opposition demanded, be reformed. While a degenerated workers state has been qualitative degenerated and cannot be reformed, therefore requires a political revolution.
What does that mean? "Quantitative deformations"? What? That's just confusing. Could somebody please re-word this paragraph much more clearly, and add some sources too? I started to have a go myself, then realised I didn't really understand what they meant.
WikiReaderer 17:50, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- Excellent suggestion. Many thanks. --Duncan 11:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
