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Contents 1 Usage 2 Discussion 2.1 Name 2.2 db-meta self=yes 2.3 Usage 2.4 Category:Candidates for speedy deletion by user 2.5 does this really need to be checked? 2.6 bad that this needs to exist 2.7 Proposal to update language 2.8 Revert 2.9 fix

[edit] Usage

{{db-userreq}}

{{db-userreq|rationale= Your rationale }} – for user talk pages

This template can be used on pages or subpages in user space (pages which begin with User: or User talk:) when the user whose space the page appears in wants to have the page deleted speedily. See Wikipedia:Userpage#How do I delete a user subpage? for further details.

[edit] Discussion

[edit] Name

Shouldn't this template have another name [than Db-owner]? Something like Please-delete? --Wintermute314 18:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

You're right. Db-owner sounds kind of strange. I don't know what to do with it right now though. --Yanwen 20:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] db-meta self=yes

The standard instructions and the disclaimer "do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself" don't quite make sense here, do they? Femto 12:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Usage

I know it's pretty self-explanatory, but would someone who's more knowledgeable than I put the "Usage" of this page on here? Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

This template can be used on pages or subpages in user space (pages which begin with User: or User talk:) when the user whose space the page appears in wants to have the page deleted speedily. See Wikipedia:Userpage#How do I delete a user subpage? for further details. --Metropolitan90 08:07, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Candidates for speedy deletion by user

I added the above category to the template as speedy deletions under CSD U1 are quickly taken care of. No need for them to clog CAT:CSD up. --Brad Beattie (talk) 07:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] does this really need to be checked?

Currently, the template says

Administrators, remember to check what links here, the page history (last edit), the page log, and any revisions of CSD before deletion.

Do our admins really need to spend their precious time for that? This seems like a case of instruction creep. It seems to me that all that needs to be checked is the last edit - and only to find out if it was really the user themself who posted this. — Sebastian 05:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

All the speedy deletion templates use that text. I personally check that sort of stuff before I delete anything. --- RockMFR 05:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Why do you think it's worth your time? Is it just because it's easier to keep a consistent habit, or do you think there's really value in checking these things in the userspace? — Sebastian 06:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, no reply, which could mean that RockMFR is very overworked doing all that checking work ... Q.E.D.  :-]

I therefore requested a change on Template talk:Db-meta#Please adjust the logic for self=yes. — Sebastian 02:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Even for U1, checking the page history is of course necessary (to confirm that the user put the tag there themself), and checking whatlinkshere is probably wise (U1s should usually have few incoming links; if you see some unexpected ones, it may be worth looking into that first). Checking the log doesn't seem any more or less important than for any other speedy criterion (and the deletion log is shown when you click "delete" anyway), and the same goes for revisions of CSD; I don't check for those before every speedy deletion I do, but it's probably worth checking occasionally to ensure that the policy still says what it used to. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 07:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

This sounds like you have a sensible approach. I agree that the history should be checked - at least the last entry, which put the template in place. WRT whatlinkshere, I see now that it can make some sense to check it. Other people might refer to it, and if we only rely on the owner (for lack of a better word) then we might miss just some interesting cases - those, where the owner wants to destroy some evidence. (I witnessed that in a case I was mediating once.)

I'm sorry that the discussion is split now - should we consolidate it in one place? — Sebastian 08:08, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] bad that this needs to exist

Everybody ought to be able to delete their own pages! At minimum, the delete tab should appear when a user is in their own area. Probably it is better to always show the tab though, giving the full set of options that are available:

• oversight delete (oversight priv)
• regular delete (admin, owner of user page, or sole editor and page not a move-generated redirect)
• mark for speedy delete
• mark for VfD

Those last two ought to insert the correct wiki text. Lots of people screw it up. VfD is particularly hard, as it requires multiple page edits (and really ought to happen in one database transaction).

For each type of deletion that is not allowed or not possible, a reason should be shown.

BTW, if somebody knows where to put this in as a feature request, please do so.

AlbertCahalan 09:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

That's worth considering, but I would make one modification: Instead of "everybody" I would say "every account in good standing". (Off-topic remark: The word "everybody" is somewhat pointless here since we generally don't know about the real person who owns each account. Too many people here treat accounts like real, bodily people.) — Sebastian 16:50, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to update language

Modified wording for this template is being discussed here. Thank you, Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Revert

It's fine to standardize the CSD templates, but do not break functionality, especially when using a bot. I specifically modified this template to not work on User_talk pages without a rationale. Grr... Feel free to re-instate the previous changes with the rationale code. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] fix

whats with .. See [[Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#{{{CRITERION}}}|CSD {{{CRITERION}}}]].? or am i the only one who can see it? – ThatWikiGuy (talk) 12:08, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I see it also. It also doesn't appear to categorize either. Yngvarr (c) 23:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Next time just fix it yourself.--Otterathome (talk) 12:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

well thank you for the slap in the face. Did it ever occur to you that some of us aren't versed in templates? Yngvarr (c) 12:27, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

You only have to check which version looks correct then revert it, I don't expect inexperienced editors to be editing here.--Otterathome (talk) 12:33, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Your comments and attitude is highly insulting. I shall remove this from watchlist and hope that I do not happen to stumble into you in my inexperienced editing. Yngvarr (c) 12:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)