Template talk:Db-t3

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[edit] #ifexist

#ifexist requires a DB request when it is used and it seems unnecessary to use here. Also, the code I've removed required {{{2}}} to be used, which, as I've said previously, is not needed. The code checked the existence of a second parameter and if it didn't exist, it added it to a category for incorrect date formatting. --MZMcBride (talk) 00:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

By my reading of CSD-T3, the second parameter should always be provided, otherwise there's no clear or verifiable claim to its actual deletablity on those grounds. Further, look at the current documentation of the template itself: "The second should be the justification for deleting the template: the simplest method is to specify the template that the template is redundant to/duplicate of/instance of. Alternatively, a more detailed reasoning can be provided using the named parameter |reason=." I don't think skipping this aspect entirely is a wise (third) alternative. There's a big difference between templates that are specifically duplicates or instances of another, and those that have no apparent and current use. This conflates those that are subst'able, or that see transient use, with those that are "useless" or "deprecated". I'd go so far as to say that db-t3 tags that don't conform to this CSD clause should be immediately removed. Further to said reading, I propose to in the first instance, reword the message "it is a deprecated or orphaned template that no longer serves a useful purpose", so as to more clearly not susceptible to the "not currently transcluded" misconstrual, and in the second, eliminate it in favour of making the second parameter (in the form of either a template name or a stated reason) mandatory once more. Alai (talk) 21:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
You're suggesting a policy change, not a technical one. I see you've posted to WT:CSD, so I suppose this discussion can take place there. --MZMcBride (talk) 22:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
No, I'm giving notice of changes to this template to bring it into line with current policy. Alai (talk) 22:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to update language

Modified wording for this template is being discussed here. Thank you, Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] pre-7 days category

No more pre-7 days category? Granted whatlinkshere will give much of the same result, but it would make things a bit easier to use a category view. -- Ned Scott 05:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Some sort of category seems reasonable, I suppose. And it would be in-line with other CSD criteria, I think. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, on second thought, it's really only a cosmetic thing for a cat vs whatlinkshere. Whatever works for me.. -- Ned Scott 06:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Error message

Instead of

Please do not place this tag on anything other than templates.

which appears confusing on transclusions, it'd be more informative to say something along the lines of

This template has been proposed for speedy deletion.

Pomte 10:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)