Talk:David Farrar (New Zealand)
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[edit] Delete
A related article was previously deleted, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kiwiblog - SimonLyall 09:40, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rename to David Farrar (New Zealand)
Rename as above. thoughts? - SimonLyall 07:53, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds like a good idea. I guess Farrar is more notable as a New Zealander. --Lholden 23:36, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mr Lyall
I would debate whether David Farrar is an "important" blogger or commentator. If we continue to allow this Wikipedia will be clogged to it's knees with every blogger and his dog having an article. I can think off the top of my head around 5 NZ commentators who have been on TV, have blogs but do not have Wikipedia articles (often deleted for questionable notability). I would also question the tone of this article as it's almost a verbatim of DPF's bio he wrote for Kiwiblog. Bactoid 10:08, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- The article has already been through the AFD process. NBR seems to rate him fairly important and he appears in the media on a regular basis (at least one hit a month in the Herald's search engine). We are not adding bloggers in any great amount otherwise - SimonLyall 10:18, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Mr Lyall he was recently featured in the NBR where they satirized him and basically "took the piss" for want of a better phrase. This doesn't make him important. Bactoid 11:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- The referenced article doesn't appear to be the one you are talking about. I think I saw a reference to the one you mean though. I think the fact that NBR would bother satirizing him could probably be taken as a positive for him being notible. I doubt they would bother doing so for somebody that nobody had even heard and which their readers wouldn't get the references to - SimonLyall 06:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- There's a rule about re-opening AfDs after a certain period, isn't there? --Lholden 06:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- The referenced article doesn't appear to be the one you are talking about. I think I saw a reference to the one you mean though. I think the fact that NBR would bother satirizing him could probably be taken as a positive for him being notible. I doubt they would bother doing so for somebody that nobody had even heard and which their readers wouldn't get the references to - SimonLyall 06:51, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Mr Lyall he was recently featured in the NBR where they satirized him and basically "took the piss" for want of a better phrase. This doesn't make him important. Bactoid 11:00, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Censorship and other accusations
The blogosphere has recently erupted in debate regarding Kiwiblog. There have been accusations of leftist posters being censored and banned for expressing opinions that don't follow the blog's centre-right theme. There is also talk of a significant link between DPF and the National Party with many now thinking of Kiwiblog as the unofficial blog of the National Party. I think this should be highlighted along with some other changes as right now it is showing some bias. There are also exerts that are verbatim from DPF's own personal bio he has written on the blog. I suggest expanding upon the Kiwiblog stuff at the beginning of the article putting it under it's own heading. It should express some general facts such as how long it's been running for, it's recent popularity and the introduction of moderation including the accusations of censorship. Bactoid 04:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Lots of points. 1. Need references for censorship stuff. 2. I don't think the link between David and the National party is exactly a secret. 3. Alternative sources of bio information would be good. 4. I'm not sure that a right wing blogger deleteing left wing comments on their own blog is news? - SimonLyall 11:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] POV dispute
What's the POV dispute here? --Lholden (talk) 19:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
