Talk:Dana Delany

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[edit] Tags and Ratings

It's getting tiresome seeing Tags slapped onto articles with no explanations, especially when the tags themselves require just that. If someone chooses to rate this article, please indicate the reasoning, or leave it to someone else. Granted there is an article that explains the general idea of the ratings, but then it's a guessing game as to how it applies. And if the response is "It should be obvious", well, assume it's not. x 05:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Animaniacs

I reverted a change about the Animaniacs, not because I think it's wrong, but because I'd like to see something specific as to how this correction is more accurate. E.G. what episode was she mentioned in, and what year was that ep made? My understanding is that though Animaniacs was indeed beng produced before Superman:TAS started, that additional new eps were made afterwards. Any specifics please? x 13:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

• Animaniacs started airing in 1993, and "Dana Delany" was used in the intro during the first season. (Here is a newsgroup reference to it from November 1993.) Superman TAS didn't start until 1996, almost three years later.
  While researching this, I noticed that Delany's official website makes the claim that the Animaniacs reference was based on her Superman work, and the large sections of the text has been copied almost exactly into this Wikipedia article. This appears to be a copyright violation, and should be remedied ASAP.
  --The Invisible Hand 18:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for the response. Just wanted something verifiable. Actually Mask of the Phantasm was also in 93, there might be a connection there, but I have no confirmation for that.

and the large sections of the text has been copied almost exactly into this Wikipedia article yes I suppose that's one way of seeing it. However, my understanding is that they were both written by the same person at the same time (rphunt). Perhaps he could clarify the copyright status? x 18:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lois Lane as a notale role for Dana Delany

Though Lois Lane is a notable and iconic character in popular culture, I disagree that Dana is particularly noted for this voice over role, which is my understanding to be the intent of that section. x 22:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Frankly, this is a point-of-view statement (with no real evidence on the contrary) that was made. Also you seem to be contradicting yourself when you say that she isn't really "noted" for her voice-over work as Lois Lane, even though she's been doing it for a long time. TMC1982 8:56 p.m., 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Lois Lane is a fairly iconic character in popular culture (being an important part in the Superman, the most recognizable superhero of all-time, mythos). TMC1982 1:13 p.m., 1 May 2007 (UTC)

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TMC1982 1:19 p.m., 1 May 2007 (UTC)

• Maybe, but that's neither here nor there. The question before us is whether Dana Delaney is notable for her work doing voice-over as Lois Lane. You, TMC1982, are the only one who seems to be arguing that she is, and as a result the onus is on you to show, via reliable sources, that she is notable. Otherwise, it will continue to be pulled out. Tabercil 04:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I also think Delany's Lois Lane should be listed as a notable role. It's as least as notable as her shorter lived role on China Beach. I'm not sure you realize this, but Superman: The Animated Series and the rest of the series that tie into DC_animated_universe have an enormous fanbase, which is due in no small part to the award winning series' character based scripts and a-list voice talent. DVDs from the series are consistent sellers at amazon.com; and, to the best of my knowledge, China Beach hasn't even been released in a digital format yet. Here's a rudimentary Google test, where I run "Delany" first with "South Beach", and then with "superman" and "animated":

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=%22dana+delany%22+%22china+beach%22&btnG=Google+Search

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22dana+delany%22+superman+animated&btnG=Search

For all of the acclaim Delany received for South Beach, I only see a 20% difference in hits. Of course, it's only a Google test; but such tests can sometimes be useful to show trends. If one compares the number and depth of fansite coverage afforded each show, Superman blows Beach out of the water, and I do refer to this specific, animated incarnation.

For comparable situations on Wikipedia, notice that:

• Smallville (TV series) actor Michael Rosenbaum's infobox lists his role in the DCAU as Flash
• Mark Hamill's infobox lists the DCAU's The Joker right after Luke Skywalker
• Clancy Brown's infobox lists the DCAU's Lex Luthor Ichormosquito 04:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

• Again, it's not about the character being notable. It's about whether it was a role Dana was notable for. And examples of what was done in other articles doesn't really matter (that's like finding a word mis-spelled in other articles and using that as a reason to continue that mis-spelling). And again, when Dana is mentioned in journalism, her role on China Beach is almost invariably cited, but Lois Lane almost never. Google hits? C'mon. Since when is that a valid source? x 03:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

• I admit, my argument is tenuous. I made it itching for a fight. Still, voice acting has made up a significant portion of Delany's career, "Lois Lane" is the most significant role from that portion, and her infobox is more than large enough for two notable roles. Here's a link to an interview with Delany conducted by a Superman fansite, for whatever it's worth: http://www.supermanhomepage.com/tv/tv.php?topic=interviews/dana-delany Ichormosquito 21:25, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Still, voice acting has made up a significant portion of Delany's career I'm not sure about significant portion. It may only be a significant portion of what you know about her. infobox is more than large enough for two notable roles It's not really a space issue. It's about the infobox containing the basic stuff it's supposed to, and letting the actual article do the rest. And yes, I've read that interview, and it's great, but it's just an interview, and actually it makes the point that her work as Lois is not generally noted. x 09:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with you about the interview; but I still think an actor's 2nd longest running, most sustained role, which in this case happens to have been on Superman and Justice League, two massively popular TV shows, would be considered a significant portion of anyone's career, especially when the 1st and 2nd positions dwarf the others. I concede that her Lois might not be notable, though. I really didn't mean to troll. Keep up the good work. Ichormosquito 21:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Coyne and Delany

I've removed this sentence:

Dana's great-grandfather John J. Delany founded the Coyne & Delany toilet valve company in 1879.^{[citation needed]}

as it's not really about her personal or public life, it's more a trivia item about her family. Maybe a trivia section is needed? x (talk) 03:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] News about Desperate Housewives

I've removed this:

Delany, along with the cast, was nominated at the 14th Annual Screen Actor's Guild Award for Best Ensemble in a Comedy Series. Because she has received such critical and commercial acclaim for her role on the show, it is widely speculated that this role will earn Delany yet another Emmy this year.

It reads more like a news item than as enclopedic content, is a bit gossipy, refers to present and future tenses which is preferred to be avoided in WP articles, and some of it is POV.x (talk) 17:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)