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[edit] Proposed merge

I've proposed a merge of Environmental impacts of dams into Dam. The Environmental article seems like a fork, possibly POV in nature (see WP:CFORK). Previously, the Environmental article was in this article as a section, but was repeatedly removed because it had copyright violations. The current article does not appear to have the same problem. Thus, there's no reason not to incorporate it into this article. Thoughts? ZueJay (talk) 02:07, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure, that makes sense. You should merge it in as an "Environmental Impacts" section.

WikiReaderer 23:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC) Oh, its already been done. That'll teach me to read the whole article before commenting, hopefully... WikiReaderer 23:53, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Steel Dams

The section says "Only two examples remain in the US." Does this mean that there are only two examples and both are in the US, or that of those that remain, only two are in the US? Suggest clarify or remove. Ei2g 15:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Spotlight

[edit] Merge: Environmental_impacts_of_dams

We chose not to participate in the merger of said article and Dam due to two main reasons. The first is the obvious severe lacking in sources in the proposed. The second reason is that the proposed article has enough potential to isolate itself from Dam. We felt that with expansion (which is needed) and sources, the article could easily sustain itself.--danielfolsom 00:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed per discussion - FT2 (Talk | email) 00:37, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Note -- also merged Earthen dam per same discussion. FT2 (Talk | email) 00:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
What discussion? Where? Who's we? ZueJay (talk) 19:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
We - is WP:Spotlight - which worked on this article, we're just explaining why we didn't move it. This isn't an official thing - with suppurt you could still do the move - however it seems that with FT2 and myself not being for the move - you don't have support.--danielfolsom 20:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
I understand who "we" is, now. Where is the "discussion" that ya'll have alluded to regarding this proposed merge? I'd like to read it. Or is that couple sentences above it? ZueJay (talk) 21:07, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Oppose. Environmental impacts of dams has potential to be separate article. Merge with Dam will create too long article, which is against general policy of Wikipedia. Beagel (talk) 16:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization inconsistency - to research and fix

The article has stated that there are masonry (arch/gravity) and earthen type dams, and timber dams.

  1. What category are coffer dams usually considered to fall into (CITE needed)
  2. How are dam structures actually categorized? is the article correct?
  3. Are the categorization groupings used, recognized and sourcable, or WP:OR?

FT2 (Talk | email) 00:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

The user Danielfolsom is removing all attributions from not American origin. I added examples of a specific type of dams, protection against sea inundations, which is completely different from flood protection and he removed it twice as he did earlier with the explanation of the origin of te word Dam. My examples are very relevant, the first example refers to the most costly project ever on earth (not the race to the moon as many Americans think), the second to (one of) the longest dam(s) in the world (32 km) and the third to a still existing dam (800 years old) that is close to the original meaning of the word dam. Im my opinion are te actions by Danielfolsom close to vandalism. I will add the removed parts again and suggest a blocking of Danielfolsom when he removes it again.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Robvhoorn (talk • contribs)

First of all, again, sign your post with four tildes; second of all, you didn't mention anything about cost in the first example - nor did you have the source to that, so it's irreverent. Then the next addition you had was duplicating a section called "Flood prevention" - jsut so you could talk about one dam, which wasn't the point of the table. Flood prevention of sees is still flood prevention. I re-added the dam you listed in the duplicated section, however, to the table in the correct, original area. Thirdly, your suggestion about the American bias is not thought through. You say I have removed all examples, yet you provide only one diff- yours. I reverted you because you duplicated a section, but again, I added the dam that you gave - that's not American bias at all - and I would ask you not to make personal attacks (WP:PA)--danielfolsom 17:06, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Goin' with the lo-flow

No mention of low-flow dams? I understand they're designed not to form reservoirs, but work more like weirs. Can somebody confirm? Add info? (I've tried tracking some down with no success...) Trekphiler 10:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] failure detection systems

While living in the City of Monterey Park, California, there was a minor. failure of the clay core dam owned by the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California. The probable cause was movement from earthquakes. The result was that flows through the clay core of Garvey Reservoir undermined foundations of houses downstream from the reservoir. The MWD proposed plastic lining to prevent further leaks. I put a recommendation into the Environmental Impact Report for sensors to be placed between liner layers so that a leak could be detected. This was was implemented by court order, and as far as I know is the first such leak sensor system implemented to detect failures. Saltysailor (talk) 05:10, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dam creation: Common purposes

I propose turning the table about common purposes of dam creation into organised paragraphs with their corresponding subheadings as to provide more information in a clearer way, instead of just being a table with a couple of examples, because I think the article does not provide sufficient information about this. --Wikiean (talk) 20:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree that the table is hard to read and does not present the information in the best possible way. –Mattisse (Talk) 21:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)