Talk:Dafydd ap Gruffydd

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a phonetic transcription of Welsh names would be very nice to have!

Isn't holocaust a bit of a strong word for the end of the article?

This statement is incorrect and the link is most certainly incorrect:

"Dafydd ap Gruffudd married (sometime after 1265) Elizabeth de Ferrers, daughter of Robert Ferrers, earl of Derby. Elizabeth was the widow of William Marshal."

THE William Marhsal died in 1219 and was married to Isabel de Clare. His son, another William Marshal, was married at the time of his death in 1231 to King John's daughter, Eleanor Plantagenet, who later married Simon Montfort.

Deleted "Elizabeth was the widow of William Marshal" and incorrect link.

Elizabeth de Ferrers was the widow of William Marshal, 2nd baron, who died sometime shortly before 1265. (Do not confuse with William Marshal who died 1219)

The manor of Folesham, Norfolk came into Dafydd ap Gruffudd's possesion through this marriage and he exchanged it with John Marshal for the manor of Norton, Northampton. (see Littere Wallie 139-140, 142-3). BrynLlywelyn 04:21, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Is he at all celebrated as a national hero in Wales today? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.94.173 (talk) 06:03, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rubbish in this article

No mention of his role in the first Welsh war, also some nonsense about a trap for Lllwellyn the last. It was the battle of Irfon bridge. CJ DUB 14:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

If you know this to be true, and have a reference for it, add it to the article. If there is "rubbish," as you call it, in the article, remove it. ---RepublicanJacobite_{The'FortyFive'} 19:49, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name

It seems to me that, if DaG's father was named "Gruffudd", and his brother's surname was "ap Gruffudd", then DaG's surname should be listed as "ap Gruffudd" first, with "ap Gruffydd" given as a variant. Sectori (talk) 11:59, 8 January 2008 (UTC)