Talk:Czech nationality law
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I have removed the comment "The Czech citizenship law generally follows the citizenship laws of other countries" and replaced it with something more specific. Citizenship laws vary widely, and the laws of some other countries are very different from the Czech Republic. Particularly in terms of Jus soli and multiple citizenship JAJ 14:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Loss of Czech citizenship
With reference to the comment: "Petr was a Czech citizen who has married a Australian woman, Blanche. After the required 2 years he successfully applied for Aussie citizenship. He gets to keep his Czech citizenship as he gained it in connection with a marriage, and he gets Australian citizenship, becoming a dual national."
Australian nationality law doesn't grant citizenship automatically based on marriage. He would have had to apply for naturalisation like any other immigrant. Would this not cause loss of Czech citizenship or is there an exemption for those acquiring the citizenship of the country of their spouse (like what exists within Dutch nationality law)? JAJ 14:27, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- Read it clearly, "he successfully applied for Aussie citizenship", and yes, in the text I stated you lose citizenship "unless it is in connection with a marriage or the birth of a child.". +Hexagon1 (talk)
14:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
- Under the law of many countries that restrict dual citizenship, it's acceptable to acquire citizenship automatically based on marriage (not so many countries allow this now anyway) but not to naturalise following marriage to a citizen of the other country. JAJ 15:04, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Issues of Czech nationality are ultimately a question for the Czech Republic courts to determine. Without a specific reference I would be cautious to state that naturalisation as a citizen in another country a few years after marriage to a citizen of that country (as opposed to automatic acquisition of citizenship upon marriage) falls within the exemption "in connection with marriage". I'm not saying that the Czech Republic doesn't see it this way, however most countries with restrictive dual citizenship laws do make this distinction, the Netherlands being an exception. JAJ 17:34, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
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- I didn't see that, people who marry Aussies do only get a permanent, then they apply for citizenship like all other immigrants, that seems to suggest that that case study is wrong, and you do lose citizenship. If you know of a country where he would get citizenship automatically then please correct it. PS: I've spoken to someone in that situation whom I originally based case study 1 on, they say it just works the way I wrote the case study, but that seems strange, it just works beyond the scope of the law? +Hexagon1 (talk) 04:26, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't see that, people who marry Aussies do only get a permanent, then they apply for citizenship like all other immigrants, that seems to suggest that that case study is wrong, and you do lose citizenship. If you know of a country where he would get citizenship automatically then please correct it. PS: I've spoken to someone in that situation whom I originally based case study 1 on, they say it just works the way I wrote the case study, but that seems strange, it just works beyond the scope of the law? +Hexagon1 (talk)
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- There are two possibilities. Firstly, Czech policy may interpret "in connection with marriage" to include a situation where someone acquires another citizenship by naturalisation subsequent to marriage. In that case they would be ok. Alternatively, they may have lost Czech citizenship (despite what they think) and are using invalid Czech passports. I'm not aware of any Western countries today which give citizenship automatically upon marriage, some used to give it to wives (not husbands) but the laws were changed. JAJ 12:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
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- Well since the person said the former and they have done extensive research on the topic and are still carrying their original passport, as well as the Aussie one, so I assume the former is the one, and the text is correct, if we get any evidence to the contrary we'll change it. But IANAL, and honestly, I'm not sure. +Hexagon1 (talk) 00:43, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
- Well since the person said the former and they have done extensive research on the topic and are still carrying their original passport, as well as the Aussie one, so I assume the former is the one, and the text is correct, if we get any evidence to the contrary we'll change it. But IANAL, and honestly, I'm not sure. +Hexagon1 (talk)
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[edit] marriage
how many years do you have to be marrried to a czech to get citizenship? and do you actually have to live in the czech rep for the entire time?
[edit] Reform
This (doc; cs) may be of interest to editors, as discussed here (en) and analysed here (cs). It deals with a proposed citizenship reform. Be warned, the doc link is in very complex legalese Czech and is over 30,000 words. +Hexagon1 (t) 07:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
