Talk:Cynthia Ann Parker

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"It is undisputed that Cynthia Ann was never happy among her birth family after her forced return to them. It was extremely difficult for whites of that time period to understand that she regarded herself as Commanche, and wanted to go 'home.' As the decades passed, gradually society began to be able to grasp the sadness of her life, and death, in exile." I'm not sure the above paragraph adds anything not already in the article, except a little of what appears to be POV on what someone did or did not understand. Opinions?? - Rlvaughn 02:47, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About the picture

The picture must be a fake. It's almost impossible to imagine that any contemporary photographer in Texas would have taken a picture of a white woman with her breast uncovered. // Napikwan 08:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Photographers at the time may have been less prudish than you think. This is a famous image, and has been reproduced many times in many different books over the years. A copy is held by the University of Texas at Austin, and can be seen on their "Texas Beyond History" website: http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/forts/dieiscast.html. This article (also on the UT Austin site) mentions Cynthia Ann being photographed with her baby at her breast: http://www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/PP/fpa18.html. This Dallas-Fort Worth Star Telegram also mentions Cynthia Ann having her photograph taken with her baby: http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/16130380.htm?source=rss&channel=dfw_local. I don't see any reason to doubt the age of the photograph. CKarnstein 17:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I have no great doubts about the age of the photograph. For several reasons I just don't believe the woman in the picture is Cynthia Ann Parker. It may be a famous image now, but as far as I know it's never mentioned in any contemporary source. Are there any other known pictures taken by a Fort Worth photographer by the name of A.F Corning? //Napikwan 11:08, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I suppose it's possible that the picture is really of some other woman, but this image is commonly accepted as a photograph of Cynthia Ann Parker and her baby. As far as I can tell, there's no scholarly debate on the matter. But I'm no expert on the subject. If you know of some reputable source that claims the photo is not of Cynthia Ann, it would be appropriate to mention in the article that there is some doubt as to the true identity of the woman pictured. But if you can't cite such a claim, your suspicions (even if correct) would fall under "original research". CKarnstein 19:05, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] clarification needed on (contradiction in) translated Comanche name?

Help needed from those knowledgable on the subject. I'm just an ignorant, but interested, reader - noticing this discrepancy:

In this article, "Cynthia Ann Parker", it states: Cynthia Ann was named "Naduah" by the Comanches, which means "she carries herself with dignity and grace".

and

In the closely related article: "Quanah Parker", it states, Cynthia Ann Parker... was given the Indian name Nadua ("Someone Found")... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maralrapp (talk • contribs) 00:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC).