Talk:Cynic (band)
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in de:cynic it is said, there was a storm which destroyed the training room (?). That had lead to the end of the band. Someone who knows? --141.53.194.251 11:25, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Incorrect. The hurricane Andrew in August 1992 destroyed Jason Gobel's home (which also housed their training facilities) and forced them to postpone the recording of Focus until 1993. In this light the above claim simply cannot be true. --SirWoland 21:40, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Copyvio reversion
It seems that on July 29, 2006, copyrighted material from allmusic.com[1] was copied into the article. I have reverted the article to the state previous to that date. --Alvestrand 07:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cynicband.jpg
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cynicband.jpg
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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cyniclogo.gif
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[edit] Genre
Especially on Focus, I always thought of Cynic to be more of a thrash band than death metal band. Besides, the archives lists them as both a thrash and death band. Therefore, I'll be adding thrash to the genre list. Sittingonfence (talk) 22:35, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Spacing
I support the view of the editor from Alaska, the editor from Vancouver and the editor from Newfoundland who all agree that comma spacing is the preferred format. 209.226.190.118 (talk) 18:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree with the consensus. 142.177.76.36 (talk) 18:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
::Ok, so since Anger22 doesn't want me to erase the above, I'll just say that it was decided that the above users were sockpuppets and this issue is not being talked about anymore here anyways. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
The associated RCU report clearly stated that the IPs who posted above were unrelated. Please do not leave false or dishonest posts that may cause a misinterpretation of a previous discussion. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:11, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I did not say those things to be dishonest. At the time I thought what I said was true. Regardless, though, even if those users are not sockpuppets (though they edited the same pages in their few edits and gave similar edit summaries and both were also similar to Niderbib) it doesn't matter. The issue is being discussed elsewhere. And the first comment on this section is an obvious lie by that IP address. What editors is s/he even talking about? No one. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
An obvious lie? It reads quite clearly. If you review the edit history of the article there were several IP edits over the course of 2 or 3 days. 1 IP was based in Alaska, 1 in Newfoundland and 1 in Vancouver. According to a geobytes search the IP editor posting the comment was based in Amherst, Nova Scotia. Several thousand miles and different ISP providers separate all of these IP editors. Multiple edits from several different editors established a consensus for the article as far as formatting goes. But 2 editors opposed the change. One editor was blocked recently for 48 hours with a warning that if he commit any more than a single rv on an article then he would be permanently blocked. The only other policy violation that took place on the page was that Landon1980 broke Wikipedia's WP:3RR policy in edit warring with the multiple IPs. For which he was not blocked. Both Landon1980 and the other edit warring user made accusations and personal attacks against User:Niderbib which turned out to be false and supported by the RCU check done on the IPs and the accused user. Do you require any more explanation? Feel free to ask and I will try and assist you. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:40, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- You may be right, though I would have no idea how to check where an IP is from. But, somehow, I'd rather think that those IPs were very crafty and knew how to make their IPs jump (which is a possible thing) thus appearing to be from different areas. Maybe a bit extreme, but it's possible. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 21:58, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I also find it extremely interesting that those two editors above and the editor from Alaska, the one from Newfoundland and the one from Vancouver all edited the same pages. Or at least, two of the same pages. There is a high number of coincidences here. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 22:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
??All edited the same pages? The Vancouver editor has several thousand edits dating back a few years? The IP also seems to have quite a few thank you notes from a few administrators for their work fighting against vandalism and particularly against spam links on Wikipedia. Either way, the article has been locked from any contributions from anonymous editors. The makings of a good discussion for this minor issue were started (albeit in the wrong place) at the WP:METAL talk page. This discussion, however, degenerated rather quickly into a non-constructive debate which will accomplish nothing as it is relating only to heavy metal pages and not to music articles as a whole. Even if some sort of consensus came from the discussion it couldn't be used because whatever formatting rule is set for the musician infobox it has to apply to all genres. Keeping the discussion on the WP:METAL page is wasting a lot of time that could be used in a more constructive way. But I digress. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I meant, they all happened to edit the same few pages recently. Anyways, indeed. As for the other stuff, I have no idea what to say. That might be something you would want to mention at WP:METAL. I've already said my piece there. I happen to think I'm a pretty good editor and the only area I've had problems in is with the genre delimiter issue. All my blocks are because of that issue. A conclusion needs to be reached so that there is no room for arguement and everyone follows the same rule. However, I have no clue as to how such a conclusion could be reached. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 22:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I already commented in the discussion that that post was in the wrong place. All the editors involved would have to learn how to compromise rather than see it as black or white. The final solution must have uniformity across all music projects and it must not discriminate against any reader. I have read that complex coding can have a negative/harmful effect on visually impaired Wikipedia readers who are forced to use a reading software to assist them in their use of the encyclopedia. Simple punctuation does not hamper these readers in any way. So far I have not seen this point brought up in any of the most recent discussions although it has been brought up in other forums where the use of code has been limited. I can not verify if this is true as I do not use a reader assist software. If it were true then that should take importance over anyone's cosmetic peeves. But, like I said, I do not use any assistance software. As for this article I would question why someone has added Jazz fusion? I will assume it was added by someone who doesn't know what jazz fusion is. That is a very common mistake on Wikipedia. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't add that, but I assume that the person who did, did it under the assumption that Focus is Jazz fusion as it fuses element of Jazz with metal, which fits the definition of Jazz fusion. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 22:51, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- I already commented in the discussion that that post was in the wrong place. All the editors involved would have to learn how to compromise rather than see it as black or white. The final solution must have uniformity across all music projects and it must not discriminate against any reader. I have read that complex coding can have a negative/harmful effect on visually impaired Wikipedia readers who are forced to use a reading software to assist them in their use of the encyclopedia. Simple punctuation does not hamper these readers in any way. So far I have not seen this point brought up in any of the most recent discussions although it has been brought up in other forums where the use of code has been limited. I can not verify if this is true as I do not use a reader assist software. If it were true then that should take importance over anyone's cosmetic peeves. But, like I said, I do not use any assistance software. As for this article I would question why someone has added Jazz fusion? I will assume it was added by someone who doesn't know what jazz fusion is. That is a very common mistake on Wikipedia. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
It might fit the unreferenced/original research/incorrect Wikipedia definition of what jazz fusion is. But it does not fit in with what 'jazz fusion' is. Again, a common Wikipedia mistake. Wikipedia is abundant with errors. This is is pretty low on the spectrum. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 23:14, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed to all. Wikipedia has plenty of problems. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 23:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Cynic signed to Seasons of Mist
It sucks that nobody can edit the article until May 10. Oh well. If I remember, I will post that information on the page. Here is where I found that out:
Cynic Signs to Seasons of Mist: News @ metalstorm.ee
- That article and the Cynic Myspace also mention the band has a new guitarist, Tymon Kruidenier who will be doing death vocals. Demonofthefall (talk) 10:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Awesome. Thanks for that information. I'm going to visit their myspace profile soon equipped with this information. BTC 21:39, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] I'm Blocked
Dude, this sucks why can't I edit the page? Why is it blocked? Festering Rat Corpse (talk) 14:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- You're not the only one. Everyone is blocked from editing it. It's not personal or something. There was some edit warring on this page so they blocked everyone from editing it for a while. Blizzard Beast $ODIN$ 19:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
