Talk:Cymbal making

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Several manufacturers of cymbals continue to manufacture cymbals in the tradition way among them are Zildjian, located in the USA, Sabian, located in Canada and Paiste, located in Switzerland.

I'm sorry, but that is drum-shop sales talk, and even the manufacturers themselves admit it's not true if you read their literature carefully. The Paiste factory in Switzerland receives all its feedstock as sheet metal. They don't even own a casting furnace. Sabian Hand Hammered (and the old HH line it replaced) are made on a special patented hand-hammering machine. Zildjian are the most automated of those three. Meinl don't even pretend (isn't that refreshing), nor do Paiste Germany (but their claim never to have shared manufacturing facilities is another thing entirely).

Genuine hand-hammered cymbals are available, but it's hard to find good ones. The machines do a really good job! Not as good as a top individual craftsman, but probably better than you will buy in the genuinely handmade boutique lines that come into your local music shop, for most purposes. So let your ear choose your cymbals is my advice. Andrewa 20:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terminology

Is "lathing" actually the term used in this industry? Because every metalworking industry I know of calls that "turning" on a lathe.Mzmadmike 06:14, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hammering patterns

Current article reads The difference in sound is due mostly to the nature of the hammering: hand hammering is done randomly (that is not in a regular pattern) and thus the cymbal has a darker sound-even if this "random" style is dictated and executed by a computer. Symmetrical hammereing which is almost always done by a machine gives the cymbal a brighter sound. So it is random hamering versus symmetrical hammering that accounts for the major discrepancies between the sounds of various cymbals. It was added here.

I'm a bit sceptical that this is encyclopedic. It seems to me to be a guess. At best, it's either an opinion of WP:OR. Andrewa 10:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Terminology

"Uses many different CHEESES"? What does that mean? I thought perhaps some cymbal-making obscure terminology, but there's no further reference to 'cheeses' in the article. Dvallere (talk) 00:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)