Talk:Cut, copy, and paste

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[edit] Kopipe

"Kopipe" (a Japanese rendering of "copy-paste") redirects here, with no mention on the page. What is it supposed to mean in English-speaking communities? 86.131.92.101 18:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origin

Does anyone know where this idea came from? HereToHelp 11:44, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Some say Douglas Engelbart's oNLine System (NLS) was the first one, presented to the public in 1968. [1] Others pin the claim to the Gypsy word processor by Xerox Alto in 1975. Finally, some think it originated in Apple Lisa, but that is clearly a misconception. I don't have Real installed right now, could you review the NLS video on the linked page and see if it matches the current notion of cut and paste? Aapo Laitinen 12:21, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
I added a short paragraph to the "History" section describing the choice of the Z/X/C/V keys for the undo/cut/copy/paste tect editing operations, referring to their position on the standard QWERTY keyboard. I wrote it without directly crediting anyone as the originator of the idea of using those keys, so it should stand on its own regardless of who it was. (I always heard that the idea originated at Xerox PARC, but I don't know this for sure.) — Loadmaster 15:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style

Is it "cut and paste" or "cut-and-paste?"

Depends on the context of the sentence:
  1. "Highlight the sentence, then cut and paste into a different section of the document."
  2. "When working with a word processor, common tasks include use of the cut-and-paste technique."
Groink 20:10, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested merge

[edit] Oppose

I oppose the merge of 'Cut and Paste' (^x, ^v) with 'Copy and Paste' (^c, ^v) on the ground that 'Cut and Paste' (^x, ^v) clearly came first. After this usage was established, then 'Copy and Paste' (^c, ^v) made sense and entered common usage. --Ancheta Wis 10:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Favor

I favor merger because:

  1. The Copy and paste article is a stub.
  2. The physical practices were both done long before computers, and long after as well. What difference does the date of automation make?

--TJ 02:43, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Cut and paste → Copy and paste — "Copy and paste" is 10 times more common on Google than "Cut and paste" Sharcho 06:08, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add  * '''Support'''  or  * '''Oppose'''  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
  • Oppose - they're different things - cut and paste is the physcial paper version and "ctrl X ctrl V" in MSWindows terms, the other is "ctrl C ctrl V". Rich Farmbrough, 14:09 24 November 2006 (GMT).
  • Oppose, per Rich (very succinct). -- SigPig \SEND - OVER 05:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

In the end I've changed the article name to "Cut, copy and paste" because the article speaks of all three things. --Sharcho 18:10, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Multiple clipboards

The current section reads like an advertisment. Mind you I was looking for an advertisement, but I was hoping for somethign that didn't look like vandalism. We need a list of common copy and paste programs. I'm using Textpad right now, but it's too much of a thin client. Mathiastck 09:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Are there any text editing or word processing programs that don't provide cut-and-paste operations? I've used a dozen different editors, some on computers dating back to the early 70s, and every one of them had it in some form. — Loadmaster 16:04, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The article states that "the first multiple clipboard utility CopyPaste appeared on the Macintosh in 1989". This needs a citation for the claim of being the first multiple-clipboard editor, which I doubt is the case; X-Windows provides multiple clipboards, and Emacs provides a multi-buffer kill ring, both of which predate 1989. The paragraph does read like an advertisement, and it contains two links to the copypaste-x.com website, which is probably inappropriate at best and a spamlink at worst. — Loadmaster 16:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I went ahead and deleted the text and dubious links for CopyPaste (which were originally added on 2006-10-03 by 66.91.17.181). I also merged the "Kill ring" section into the "Multiple clipboards" section, since they cover essentially the same concept. I still not completely satisfied with the result; maybe someone could tighten up the text a little. — Loadmaster 16:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copypasta

Copypasta is a section of text which is and has been frequently copied and pasted, optionally with slight modifications, often for humorous effect or absolutely nonsensical reasons.

Note: Searching for "copypasta" in wikipedia redirects to the article on 4chan although the article bears no mention of it whatsoever. This may be a practical thing, or it may be the kind of joke that comes from 4chan (such that the article on 4chan is copypasta)

While it is possible that the word is chan-community lingo, I would not be surprised to see it gradually spreading through the web, as most memes and internet lingo have spread from chan-communites to the general public.


219.60.180.97 17:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)