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A while back, your biography of Jerome "Curly" Howard contained this paragraph:

"Jerry had been expelled from high school around 1920 after he and several fellow male students visted a brothel in Brooklyn during a class field trip. Only a fair student, and probably because of this incident, Jerry never graduated from high school."

There was no citation, and I've never seen this printed anywhere about the Three Stooges. Today, this fabrication has been changed to:

"Jerry was expelled from high school after an alleged incident circa 1920 where he and some other male classmates had visited a brothel in Brooklyn during a class field trip and Jerry had spent the night with in (sic) escort. After the incident, Jerry decided not to graduate..."

Now it's been changed to, not only did he visit a brothel, but he spent the night with an escort. Let's see your sources, other than your own head. Wikipedia, if you're going to allow someone to come on here and fabricate things about someone who's dead and can't defend themselves, then please, allow others to remove it.

Please get it right (talk) 12:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

The author had better check his facts. Even the birth and death dates are wrong. According to IMDB, Jerome Howard was born 22 October, 1903, and died 18 January, 1952. I noticed other errors too. And considering how much has been written about Curly, in my POV, he deserves a lot more article than he gets here. smileyporkpyn@yahoo.com—Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.130.4.118 (talk • contribs)

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[edit] possibly a great stooge

Curly was a good stooge, nevertheless. He always got hit, hits others, even his trademark whooping, the "nyuking," and the word "Soitenly" instead of "certainly."—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.107.4 (talk • contribs)

[edit] Some of this material contains too many colloquialisms.

Greasysteve13 09:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite

I redid the page and removed the "verify" tag, all the information seemed to come from reputable sources. Though I don't have a specific source for it, I think it's safe to assume that Curly is considered to be the favorite Stooge. Right? MorrisGregorian 07:01, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lou Costello

I seem to remember a statement that Lou Costello incorporated (or copied) Curly's high pitched voice into his routine. Can anyone confirm?

AlGorup 15:50, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greed

"Sometime in his late teens, Curly married a young girl, whose name remains a mystery to this day. His mother, Jennie Horwitz, was against the idea of Curly's marrying at such a young age and had the marriage annulled."

That was mentioned on Greed. The guy said it was his great great, or great (I think great great) aunt. He said they apparently weren't in love and she didn't like him (he was laughing and I doubt he knew much about it) and it lasted only ten days. So if you want to put it lasted ten days, yeah, but it's from an episode if Greed that I can't find the episode number of. It was on at 10pm on November 29th, EST time though. But I know it's not a good source so I doubt it'll be mentioned. Maybe it can be said it's just an iffy fact?

Even if not, it's still pretty cool.-Babylon pride 03:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Teen marriage" and "mystery first wife" is an urban legend

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The business about Jerome "Curly" Howard being married for the first time in his teens, the marriage anulled and his first wife's identity being "a mystery to this day" is an urban legend (that info was probably copied out of an old book from 25 or more years ago).

Info on Curly's first wife is known, and was researched by a member of The Three Stooges Fan Club, back in 1995. Unfortunately, i do not have a copy of that issue (The Three Stooges Journal) handy, but here is a link to a citation from it:

http://www.threestooges.net/index.php?main=/journal.php&action=view&id=76

His first wife's name was Julia Rosenthal. They were married in 1930 (Jerome would have been about 27 years old at the time, not a teenager). They were divorced (not annulled).

Sorry I can't provide more concrete documentation at this moment, but this is the truth. No "mystery woman" and no "teen marriage."

Have a great day,

Mark Yurkiw---- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.67.132 (talk) 04:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC).

All that information about his marriage at 27 and their divorce might be true. But it doesn't contradict the teen marriage story. The fact that the teen marriage and annulment is mentioned in his neice's book must lend some credibility to it. 140.147.160.78 17:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Stephen Kosciesza

[edit] Contradiction

The article first states that he had some minor strokeS (note the plural) but then later had his second stroke. Which is correct? Stusutcliffe 19:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Stusutcliffe - no one really knows for sure if Curly had one minor stroke shortly before If a Body Meets a Body (where it is readily noticable), or had several minor ones throughout 1945. Either way, the one that did him in was on the set of Half-Wits Holiday. Now, whether or not that was his second stroke or just the big one after several small ones is anyone's guess.Oanabay04 (talk) 19:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Curly's Sweater

I'm trying to find the short which features a gag involving Moe and Larry trying to prise Curly out of a tight sweater using tyre irons and hitting him on the head with a mallet ("Don't mind me. Don't mind me!") Anyone know the title? Radical AdZ (talk) 02:17, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Radicaladz - Yup. You are thinking of How High Is Up?. Oanabay04 (talk) 19:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Curly biography

Hello all - I agree that this biography on Curly is poorly compiled. It has been edited, chopped, and pasted together in such a slapdash fashion, it is embarrassing. I am in the process of slowly cleaning this page up, to bring it up to the standards of the master Three Stooges page, complete with citations, quotes, and the facts. Just give me a little time, as I have spent most of my free time working on the inidividual pages for the 190 shorts (see List of Three Stooges shorts). Oanabay04 (talk) 19:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Item removed from Trivia

I removed this from the Trivia section because it isn't well-written (and makes me rather suspicious):

When Curly was a young boy. He start to mess with one of his father pistols. He accidentally shot his own foot with the pistol leaving the bullet inside his foot. His brother Moe came and save him from what had happen to him and told his parents to take him to the doctor. But curly did not like the doctor at all never wanted surgery wanting the bullet removed from his foot. So Curly Kept the bullet on his foot making his own little foot dance. When he makes the step back with his foot when he raises it and walks back. As it shows that he still has the bullet on his foot

- furrykef (Talk at me) 13:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

It's also already covered in the article, in something resembling real English. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 14:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)