Talk:Cuisine of the Sephardic Jews

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Contents 1 Translation 2 Poorly written 3 name of this article 4 Yemenite Jewish Cuisine 5 Translation II - grammar/tenses

[edit] Translation

This article a translation of the Spanish version of this page. Please move over refrences if you can, and edit the poor grammar that exists. Hopefully, we can see a specific article on the cuisine of Ashkenazi Jews soon, as well as others. Epson291 07:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Poorly written

This article is poorly written and the content is very insubstantial. Serious rewriting is required.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gilabrand (talk • contribs) 09:37, 8 June 2007.

Please sign your posts on talk pages. Epson291 14:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] name of this article

The name of this article should be "Sephardi Jewish Cuisine." Does anyone know how to change it?--Gilabrand 10:32, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

The Yemanite Cuisine must be Placed under (Jewish) "Yemenite Cuisine" section first and foremost since it is not "Sephardic Cuisine". --Elias19 21:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yemenite Jewish Cuisine

Yemanite Jews are neither Ashkenazim nor Sepharadim. Yemenites are their own unique Rite with separate customs and liturgies.

I don't see why they haven't got their own section labeled: "Jewish Yemenite Cuisine"

Lahouh, Salouf, chilbeh, Jahnoun, Kubaneh, Malawah, Zalabiya, Yemenite soup, Hawayj, Skhug etc... are all unique To Yemenite Jews and not to Sepharadim, so I don't understand what they are doing here. Their Cuisine is distinctive from that of both Askenazic and Sephardic cuisines.

If there is anyone who would like to help create Jewish Yemenite Cuisine by moving various parts of this article and creating the new page let me know I would like to help.

--Elias19 22:01, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Sephardic is often (ab)used in English to mean "anything not Ashkenazi". We could call it "Cuisine of the Mizrahi Jews", but that would leave out Moroccans, Tunisians, etc. The alternative is to use "Oriental Jews", "Jews from Arab lands", or the controversial "Arab Jews" label. nadav (talk) 22:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

TO "Nadav1":

What you said is inaccurate, First of all Jews from Arab lands are known as "Mustarabim". Just as Jews who have lived in the territory of today's Greece are known as Romaniotes (Romaniotim) And Spanish and Portuguese Jews are are respectively Sepharadim and Portugesim. The Fact that in Israel they decided to LUMP ALL OF THEM TOGETHER doesn't mean that they are the same and that you could make broad swathing statements about them. Secondly about Moroccan and Tunisian Jews there are Mustarabim Jews amongst Moroccans and Tunisians With names like: Amsellem, Ohana, Ouaknine etc... that reflect their Mustarabi heritage, while there are also Moroccan and Tunisian Jews with Sephardic heritage which you can see in their family names like Mendez, Castro, Toledano (one from Toledo), Marciano, ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM SPANISH MOROCCO (Tangier for example). Haketia (also written as Hakitia or Haquitía) is a largely extinct Jewish-Moroccan language, also known as Djudeo Spañol or Ladino Occidental (western Ladino), that was spoken on the Northeast coast of Morocco... It is not correct to say Lets lump them all together, to put The Jews of say India and Turkey in the same category when they are extremely different. Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Greece, Turkey along with many other places were strongly influenced by the arrival of Sepharadim to their communities and therefore it is correct that they are placed "with Sephardic Cuisine" since many of them adopted the Sephardi customs and cuisine, however the Yemenites did not receive the Heavily Sephardic Influence which the other middle eastern Jews did. I Don't agree with Arab Jews because there Spanish, Portuguese, Romaniotes and even Ashkenazim amongst these Jews, even though they live in Arab countries they are not ethnic Arabs. --Elias19 19:41, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Translation II - grammar/tenses

The opening paragraph is written in the past tense which seems inappropriate: the subject references the basic laws of kashrut, which still apply. I'll review and revise the article where needed as soon as I have the opportunity (unless anyone seriously objects). Plutonium27 (talk) 10:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

The past tense is appropriate when speaking of how a cuisine developed. --Gilabrand (talk) 11:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)