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[edit] Pointers

What about\the yytytgh"? (i.e. the two stars that point towards Crux that you use to estimate which direction is south) -- SJK

The pointers are Alpha and Beta Centauri, and thus a part of the constellation of Centaurus. --  B.d.mills  (T, C) 28 June 2005 12:23 (UTC)

[edit] flags

There are several countries which have the Southern Cross on their flags, such as New Zealand and Australia. Prehaps a reference to that could be made? --Gregstephens 08:12, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Maybe I'll add something about that this weekend or so. JYolkowski 23:34, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Krux

[edit] Move to "Southern Cross"

I think we should move Southern Cross to Southern Cross (disambiguation) and move Crux to Southern Cross. If there are no objections in a week I will do it myself.

My rationale is that it is in keeping with English Wikipedia policy to use the common English name as the name of the article. Southern Cross is already a disambiguation page, so there is no need to change any content (except put a link to the disambiguation page at the top of the new Southern Cross page). Are there any objections?


Ben Arnold 01:55, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just one: all other constellations are in Latin, so it's not really in keeping with Wikipedia usage. kwami 06:57, 2005 Jun 25 (UTC)

I object as well. ~~~~ 08:56, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I also object for the reasons stated above. --  B.d.mills  (T, C) 09:33, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well then how about making Southern Cross redirect here, and move the existing Southern Cross page to Southern Cross (disambiguation)? At least that way if we do decide later on to change Crux to Southern Cross we don't have to merge two pages. Ben Arnold 11:39, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Because then this page would say "for other uses of Southern cross, see Southern cross (disambiguation)", but the page title would be "crux", so the phrase would be obscure. ~~~~ 12:22, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This is done elsewhere in Wikipedia, the phrasing is usually along the lines of Southern Cross redirects here, for other uses of Southern Cross, see Southern Cross (disambiguation). There's probably a template for this. Ben Arnold 2 July 2005 02:14 (UTC)

I've found it: {{Redirect|Southern Cross}}

Ben Arnold 2 July 2005 03:29 (UTC)

[edit] Using Britain's sky?

"Although these stars were known to the ancient Greeks, gradual precession of the equinoxes had lowered them below the European skyline so that they were forgotten. For example at the latitude of Britain in 5000 BC the constellation still was completely visible at springtime midnight. [1]"

Since the article was talking about the ancient Greeks, wouldn't it be better if we use the latitude of Athens rather than the latitude of Britain to generate the sky chart? Also, 5000 B.C. seems a bit too early. Maybe we could use 1000 B.C., the start of the ancient Greek civilization? --Bowlhover 03:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Brazil?

What's so special about Brazil vis-a-vis Crux that qualifies this linkage? Might as well then link it to all southern hemisphere countries. Roger 17:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. The only difference between their Southern Cross is the 5th star placement, it's opposite the other versions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.124.38.231 (talk) 23:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Upload an image?

I got a good photo of crux last night, would it be ok if i uploaded it, it is of better quality than the current image of crux that is hosted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphamone (talk • contribs) 02:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Isn't it similar?

Isn't this cross too similar to the cross where Jesus was supposedly crucified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.126.1.209 (talk) 22:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

No. --24.57.151.98 (talk) 20:19, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
The text in the "History" section associating the constellation with the crucifiction of Jesus is totally spurious. Unless someone can come up with a citation written by a contemporary commentator who made the association. None of the gospels or later biblical texts mention it at all. Roger (talk) 20:54, 24 March 2008 (UTC)