Talk:Cross of St. Peter

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[edit] Satanic

I'd like to discuss a possible angle for the satanic connection of St Peter's cross. In the 16th/17th centuries there was a wave of protest-antism across Europe. I can only really account from an angle of British history, but in Britain Roman Catholicism was outlawed.

Roman Catholicism was effectively pushed underground. Wealthy families built secret chapels in roof spaces or cellars (See the article on priest holes[[1]]). These Roman Catholics who continued to practise would have had to have deceived others outside of their community, and they would have developed secret ways to recognise each other. Also they're bible and rites were in a language that could not be understood by the layman.

So we have:-

People who worship underground.
They meet in secret.
They use instruments of worship on an alter.
They hide the truth through deception of who they are and what they worship.
And the symbol of the accredited first pope (St Peter) is an inverted cross.

Looks to me like satanism and the inverted cross rose as an imprinted image through the propaganda of the protestant revolution.

Satan is already familiar to the people as an image of evil & the deceiver of man, and the inverted cross was familiar as a symbol of the Church of Rome. Blending these images together would have definitley produced the desired effect

This of course is merely conjecture on my part, but I leave these comments with part of a quote from John Adams made about the American revolution on the 13th of February 1818 [[2]].

The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations

To me this speaks of why propaganda exists.

Stuzilla 23:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, that or it's simply the fact that it's the most prominent universal Christian symbol, only inverted. Robrecht 18:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Should a Satanism category be added? Psychomelodic User:Psychomelodic/me 10:26, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article name

The article was renamed to Petrine Cross because that is how the Vatican translates the name. This needs to be discussed. The rules about article names are it uses the name most commonly known in English. "Cross of St. Peter" or "Peter Cross" is how it is most commonly known. I understand the Vatican holds some authority for some people but the cross is not owned by the Vatican it is a cultural icon for Catholics and non-Catholics alike. We need to stick to the rules of Wikipedia. -- Stbalbach 20:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)