Talk:Crooner

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Could Elvis Presley be considered a crooner? While that was not the style he was originally known for, he did record a large number of songs in that style, and many of the men on the list were heavily influenced by Elvis?

In fact the list is bloated, and full of non-crooners. I've pruned a couple of obvious one; I'll go back and cut some more when I have a moment. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 06:10, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
What about Julius LaRosa? Just asking. Herostratus 05:21, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually, a lot of this list influenced Elvis, specifically Dean Martin not the other way around. --Sicamous 23:26, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Glenn Danzig

you have gotta be kidding right?

[edit] Shane McGowan

An obvious joke. If anybody is the anti-crooner it's McGowan. He should be removed.

[edit] Crosby

I've just moved the following (edited) comment from the article:

"Bing Crosby was voted "crooner of the century" for the 20 century."

While I don't doubt this in essence, I don't think that we can include it without saying who voted, and in what context. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 20:39, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Yves Montand

Though he sings in French, his style is indisputably crooner. Is it plausible to put him on the list? Akuru (talk) 20:22, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rod Stewart

Rod - a crooner? I don't think so. Leave that to the ones who can sing.

[edit] Amplification

Why were the references to amplification removed? It was critical to the development of the style. 70.174.143.186 13:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neil Hannon

Could you class Neil Hannon of The Divine Comedy (band) as a modern crooner? A.Grace

[edit] The 1990s

An anon removed this section, I replaced it. I can't believe there's no 1980s crooners, though.Rich Farmbrough, 21:43 10 September 2006 (GMT).

Morrissey should probably be added. Does Shane MacGowan really belong here? Mike3k 19:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Etymology

Anyone know where the word comes from? There seems to be some resemblance to the Dutch kreunen which means to moan, but maybe it's something else? 81.64.40.170 20:53, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Carpenters

Were the Carpenters crooners? Karen had a great voice, and Richard made ballads and complicated orchestrations. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Obento Musubi (talk • contribs) 06:27, 23 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Female Crooners? :))

I think there could be some indeed. Dame Shirley Bassey and also Chaka Khan come to mind, the latter of which mostly because of her 2004 jazz album "Classikhan". -andy 80.129.102.55 12:20, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

What about Judy Garland or Ella Fitzerald? If you look at their discographies, most of their music seems to be derived from "The Great American Songbook" if that is what qualifies one as a crooner. 15.251.169.69 21:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Another thought: would the term "torch singer" be the female equivalent of the crooner? I went to the torch song entry and there seems to be an overlap on their list of singers.15.251.169.69 21:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Johnny Hartman

please mention johnny hartman

[edit] 1990s-2000s section out of control

What is going on with the 1990s-2000s section? It's full of singers whose careers began much much earlier, like Paul Anka. 149.79.35.227 (talk) 14:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] To croon - its meaning.

croon /krūn/

v., crooned, croon·ing, croons.

v.intr.

  1. To hum or sing softly.
  2. To sing popular songs in a soft, sentimental manner.
  3. Scots. To roar or bellow.

v.tr.

To sing softly or in a humming way: crooning a lullaby. n.

A soft singing or humming.

[Middle English crounen, from Middle Dutch krōnen, to lament.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.222.88 (talk) 13:59, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of Crooners

List useful to illustrate the crooner. Alexsanderson83 (talk) 07:29, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced listcruft. There is no (luckily) list like that on Singer-songwriter for instance. Garion96 (talk) 16:39, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I fail to see your reason for the deletion, will look into substantiating that if it is the only problem, else move it in to categorisation. Alexsanderson83 (talk) 08:13, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
I fail to see you reason for keeping. Nevertheless, i moved the list to a separate list article with a link to it from this article. That at least cleans up. Garion96 (talk) 13:40, 19 March 2008 (UTC)