Talk:Credo quia absurdum
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Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion Apr 21 to Apr 29 2004, consensus was not reached but used own discretion to redirect to Fideism. Graham :) | Talk 21:13, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Discussion
- Dictionary definition. Transwiki to wiktionary. Gentgeen 21:54, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Already listed in Latin phrases. Redirect or delete. Rossami 22:47, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Redirect to Fideism, where the source and meaning of the quote are discussed. Smerdis of Tlön 02:47, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- No one's mentioned it's also unspeakably ghastly. Delete. Quick! Pteron 06:13, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- Did I fail to mention that this is unspeakably ghastly, and absurd?
- Delete - for reasons above - Tεxτurε 15:31, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)
End discussion
[edit] Mistranslation?
My Latin is more than slightly rusty, but the entire gist of this page seems to me wrong based on a mistranslation. As far as I can tell, there is no causality either in the main page nor in the quotation from Tertullian. Not "I believe because it is absurd" but "I believe that which is absurd." The point is not an explanation of what why he believes but, rather, to state that we recognize that our beliefs are not all rational. This is rather similar to the argument made by many that science and faith are separate and, thus, not contradictory. Tertullian's point was that Jesus resurrection was no less certain because it is wholly outside the bounds of our understanding of how life and universe operate. I don't know that the subject doesn't warrant a page, but I am in no position to write it myself -- unless the above is sufficient basis -- but I tend to think this extant part should be excised and promptly.Czrisher (talk) 16:25, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
