Template talk:Country data China
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[edit] "China" and POV
Two options There are two Chinese states: the People's Republic of China and the Republic of China. For this template to be named "China" and display the flag of one of those states is to choose sides in the Chinese Civil War. Note that "X of China" pages are either disambiguations to "X of the People's Republic of China" and "X of the Republic of China" or they are about Chinese civilization (e.g. President of China.) -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:50, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Note that this template does not link to China when used with the standard flag templates; it correctly links to People's Republic of China. The template is named "China" because it is also used for thousands of instances to articles that use "China" in the name, such as those found in Category:National sports teams of China. None of those are disambiguation pages. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 17:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- True But the display is still "China" and the name of the template is "China" as well. If not all, then virtually all instances of "China" referring solely to the PRC (except in the case of quotations or documentary sources) should be changed. If they refer to the geographic area, they should probably be "mainland China," or the state they should read "People's Republic of China." The Template:Country data China shouldn't be used or should be some kind of disambiguation itself. Can you point me to some articles that are entitled "X of China" that refer to the PRC exclusively? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, no, I doubt I can. But I am certain of one thing — there are undoubtedly many thousands of instances where editors have linked to China instead of People's Republic of China, and these flag templates aren't to blame for that. (If anything, the flag templates help the situation because they generate a wikilink to the PRC article.) I've also seen the same thing where editors link to Ireland (the island) instead of Republic of Ireland (the nation) without bothering to see the difference. Changing the name of this template isn't going to fix that. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Dab I've no doubt that there are many instances of "[[China]]" where "(the) [[People's Republic of China]]" would be appropriate. I have personally disambiguated several hundred instances of "China" and it would in fact help if we changed the text of this template to read "People's Republic of China." I agree that changing the template's name or radically altering the text to some disambiguation would not be wise now as "{{flag|China}}" is so prevalent, and that is why I am using WP:AWB to change those (5,000+) instances now. Once that is done, though, I maintain that it would be wise to change this template. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 18:39, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well, no, I doubt I can. But I am certain of one thing — there are undoubtedly many thousands of instances where editors have linked to China instead of People's Republic of China, and these flag templates aren't to blame for that. (If anything, the flag templates help the situation because they generate a wikilink to the PRC article.) I've also seen the same thing where editors link to Ireland (the island) instead of Republic of Ireland (the nation) without bothering to see the difference. Changing the name of this template isn't going to fix that. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- True But the display is still "China" and the name of the template is "China" as well. If not all, then virtually all instances of "China" referring solely to the PRC (except in the case of quotations or documentary sources) should be changed. If they refer to the geographic area, they should probably be "mainland China," or the state they should read "People's Republic of China." The Template:Country data China shouldn't be used or should be some kind of disambiguation itself. Can you point me to some articles that are entitled "X of China" that refer to the PRC exclusively? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Add People's Liberation Army
{{editprotected}} Following lines should be added on the template:
| flag alias-army = People's Liberation Army Flag of the People's Republic of China.svg | link alias-army = People's Liberation Army
And this in the <noinclude> part of the page:
| var1 = army
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhattara (talk • contribs)
- What are you trying to fix? The
link alias-armyline has no effect. There are no templates that automatically look for an "army" variant. As for the image, it is currently unused as an icon image anywhere on en.wiki, so why does it need to be added to this template? — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 23:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)- The image is currently not used only because the same image is used with an (incorrect?) name Image:Peoples Liberation Army Flag of the Peoples Republic of China.svg. I was considering to replace all of these images with the more correctly named image, but then I thought that it could be added into the country data template first. --Jhattara (Talk · Contrib) 08:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
