Talk:County of Sicily

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[edit] 2 April 2008 edits

First, the Muslims of Sicily were far from annihilated, since many were incorporated into the Norman count's army, see Siege of Capua. Second, Apulia did not end up in Roger II's (not Roger I's) hands because of infighting, but because William II left it to him in his will. Srnec (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Pope Calixtus II had to intervene between Roger II and William II, Duke of Apulia and Calabria because of their fighting, the two were cousins. Well spotted that it was Roger II and not Roger I though. Also as far as I'm aware, the Maltese isles, like the mainland southern Italian Peninsula holdings only became united with the creation of the Kingdom of Sicily.

Also the Muslims were annihilated, they lost the war, the Normans and the Sicilians won, they didn't win by playing chess and drinking tea, they won by heroically triumphing in battle, retaking the land. Lets not try to rewrite histories winners and losers, attempting to play down the realities of ancient warfare, in an attempt to produce some PC Marxist like garbage. - Gennarous (talk) 15:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

"Annihilate" is not a synonym for "defeat". All the "re-" words you use are misleading, since Sicily was never Norman before and it was always Christian in population. "Conquer"/"conquest" is prefectly neutral language whether the conquerors' religion had been previously established or not. The County was not a transitionary period, it may have been in one, but it was a state, maybe a transitionary one, but counties are not periods of time. Srnec (talk) 19:19, 5 April 2008 (UTC)