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May 28, 2008
A call by Andrew Lih to have Wikipedians write the final chapter of his book, The Wikipedia Story (How a bunch of nobodies created the world's greatest encyclopedia).

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[edit] 2008

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For your work on the years articles. Pathfinder2006 (talk) 00:41, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


Hello Cosmic Latte. I'm not trying to be cute, concerning mentioning of the United States presidential election, 2008. If Bush dies, resigns or is removed from office before his term expires? Cheney would be the 44th President. This time - I've replaced 44th with next. GoodDay (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I've also changed 44th President to next President, at the 2009 article. PS- Though I disagree with using 44th, I won't revert (again) if you guys prefer to keep it. GoodDay (talk) 19:00, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
I'll leave it up to other folks, too. Seems like both of us have pretty much stated our cases on the matter. Cosmic Latte (talk) 10:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
For those of you who might be interested in time-related articles and edits, and would like some more information about the above dispute: Basically, it boiled down to a debate about how to apply the WP:FUTURE policy to an upcoming presidential election. A very broad interpretation of this policy might suggest that, because WP is not a crystal ball, it can't predict that the next U.S. president will be the 44th. Because some extraordinary circumstances could make him or her the 45th, WP can only claim that the election will be for the "next" president. My view, however, is that this argument is a "slippery slope" to saying that, because WP isn't a crystal ball, it can't say anything about the future, because there is always the possibility--however minute--that some extraordinary circumstance could change all plans. What if a meteor or supervolcano wipes out the human population? What if a wandering black hole eats the entire planet? Thankfully, however, a close reading of WP:FUTURE excuses us from making such bizarre considerations, because it states:
[A.] Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. [...]
[B.] Articles that present extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" are original research and therefore inappropriate.
To assume that the next presidential election will be the 44th (or that the human race and Planet Earth will be around tomorrow) is to meet condition A, whereas to recognize the possibility that it will be the 45th (or that Armageddon is just around the corner) is to meet condition B. Thus the former assumption is, in my view, acceptable, whereas the latter recognition is not. Cosmic Latte (talk) 03:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be rude, just correct. Since multiple free nations such as the United States view Hezbollah as a terrorist organization I must credit anyone helping their cause or working for them as a terrorist.

Thanks for letting me know. But "terrorist" (not to mention "free nation") is one point of view, which, in an enclycopedia, is just as important as any other point of view. "Militant" is undisputed fact. See WP:POV. Cosmic Latte (talk) 23:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] British usage on Wikipedia

Unfortunatley, I've ran into trouble (in the past) trying to push for British usage. The biography articles like Sean Connery (for example), refuse to use British. GoodDay (talk) 16:31, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

If Rab-k thinks Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales & England are/were the only states to merge into a larger state? He's incorrect. GoodDay (talk) 19:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The constituent country article does indeed list examples other than the UK. Even the United States was formed as a sort of "merger" of smaller colonies that still (as states) retain a notable degree of individual autonomy. But Americans are still listed here as "American," not "Californian" or "New Yorkian" (is that a word?) or whatever. In any event, the British listings are highly inconsistent. Some say British; others say English, Welsh, etc., and I imagine that some sort of standardization would be good. Cosmic Latte (talk) 01:22, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Yep, British should be the usage. GoodDay (talk) 14:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Time Times (2008-04)

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  • Article count on at 961! We now have 961 articles but, will have many more soon as only a few are marked as in our project. At least 803 are unassessed though, plenty of work for us to do.
  • Project member count reaches 12 members! Keep inviting all your WikiFriends.
  • Award offered—Since 2008-01-05, Sharkface217 has offered a Barnstar to the editor who can expand the article Timeline. It certainly needs it, now that it has been disambiguated from Chronology: Go to the Timeline listing on the Awards page to find out Sharkface's minimum requirements! From the Time Portal
  • An IP added this funny comment to Portal talk:Time "I never though I would see the day mankind succeeds in creating a time portal."
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  • From the leap second article: in April 2008: ITU Working Party 7A will submit to ITU Study Group 7 project recommendation on stopping leap second[s].
  • Calendars met on March 21. It was Good Friday (Western Christianity, 2008); Purim ends at sundown (Judaism, 2008); Naw-Rúz in the Bahá'í calendar, Benito Juárez Day in Mexico, World Poetry Day.
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[edit] Time Times (2008-05)

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  • History of timekeeping devices reaches Good Article Status —On April 7 the history of time keeping article became a GA. This is our only top importance article to reach this prestigious status. This was only possible with the dedication of the Tzatziki Squad. They are continuing to work on the article to reach Feature Article status.
  • History of timekeeping devices in Egypt was a DYK —The article appeared on the Main Page on April 8. With this text: "...that despite Herodotus's claim that the sundial was invented in Babylon, the oldest known example is from Egypt?" This also was only possible thanks to the Tzatziki Squad.
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[edit] Time Times (2008-06)

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  • History of timekeeping devices reaches A-Class Status—On May 22 the history of time keeping article was promoted by User:Zginder to A-Class. This is our only article to reach this prestigious status. This was only possible with the dedication of the Tzatziki Squad. They are continuing to work on the article to reach Feature Article status.
  • Merkhet was a DYK—The article appeared on the Main Page on April 28. With this text: "... that merkhets were Ancient Egyptian timekeeping devices that tracked the movement of certain stars over the meridian in order to ascertain the time during the night, when sundials could not function?" This also was only possible thanks to the Tzatziki Squad.
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[edit] Tallulah

Maybe MI-5 poisoned Tallulah through her lipstick & cigarettes. S2grand (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)s2grand

Okay, but can you add a reference to back up that idea? Cosmic Latte (talk) 22:06, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

What are you? Hall Monitor for the day??!! While I was researching other material to add to a new section some busybody has to stick his or her nose in in the next minute. That's why the info was at the end. It's enough to make people quit contributing!!!

I simply asked if you could back up your claim with a reliable source, and would have said nothing further had you mentioned that, for example, you were in the process of adding and referencing material for the section. That hardly amounts to a WP:AGF violation on my part, as you seem to be implying. You might be interested in this page (I see that someone has already directed you to this one on your talk page) regarding the importance of supporting your assertions. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:05, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nice work

The Editor's Barnstar
For first-rate copyediting and cleanup of the article 20th century. Groupthink (talk) 13:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disasters

Just a notification, but it appears that 219.23.5.48 (talk · contribs)--who seemed obsessed with plane crashes--has returned as 125.200.168.91 (talk · contribs) --CalendarWatcher (talk) 09:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that does appear to be the same person. Still adding unsourced disasters, I see, and (since he's currently on a 72-hour block) is in violation of WP:SOCK, so I've referred him to administration. Thanks for catching that! Cosmic Latte (talk) 10:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Other

Please stop vandalising the marriage page.

I am reverting your WP:POV (and now WP:NAD) violations. That is not vandalism on my part. If you think you can improve the article, feel free to take advantage of the article's talk page. Cosmic Latte (talk) 06:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (~'s). Cosmic Latte (talk) 06:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Replied

I have replied to your RfA query about which areas might be a good place to get started garnering the requisite experience. I hope it helps. If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to ask. Cheers! Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Your RfA

Hello, Cosmic Latte. I have closed your Request for Adminship per WP:NOTNOW as it was unlikely to succeed at the time. Please do not take it personally, as it was nothing against you. If you gain more experience and become active in more projects, I am confident you will succeed in the future, should you choose to submit another request. In the meantime, you may consider taking up Editor Review or Admin coaching, if you haven't already.

If you have any other questions about my closure, don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Cheers, --Mizu onna sango15/珊瑚15 21:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC).

[edit] In appreciation

Hey, I just wanted to say that I appreciated your effort to present yourself in the RfA process. Please let me know when you plan to give it another go. I believe that time is your ally and that you will be a fine admin in the near-future. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 07:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)