User talk:Cor anglais 16

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[edit] Welcome notice

    Welcome!

Hello, Cor anglais 16, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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[edit] initiation!

I've begun work on the composers' pages, good sir. -Noah

[edit] Organ repertoire timeline

It's a template - you can edit it here: Template:Timeline Organ Composers. There is sort of a timeline coding language, so we will be able to make separate timelines for each of the sub-pages of organ repertoire that we will probably need to create eventually. --Sesquialtera II 03:13, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] small organs

Hey Jonathan - I was wondering if you could take a look at portative organ and positive organ. They are a little bit cumbersome right now. Makemi was hoping we could clear it up a little. -Sesquialtera II 17:12, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Organ

Would you be interested in joining/starting an Organ project? I have found a Pipe organ/refactor project but it doesn't seem to do a lot. There seems to be lots of work that needs doing, not just to the instrument pages, but also to composers/works etc. Best, Mdcollins1984 12:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I have formally proposed the WikiProject Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Pipe Organ. Please add your name to the interested list and lets see if we can get this off the ground. Mdcollins1984 10:20, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi,

Wikipedia:WikiProject PipeOrgan has now been created. Feel free to assist in the creation of the project page, and then we can get started!

Best,

MDCollins (talk) 16:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Organ pipe, Organ stop and Pipe organ

Hi,

Would you mind taking a look at the Organ pipe and Organ stop articles?

Do you think that they add any information that isn't in the really good Pipe organ? I would assume that the point of more specific articles is to be more specific! These look really poor in comparison.

If I was to be brave, I would suggest merging the pair of them into Pipe organ. What do you think?

Best wishes,

Mdcollins1984 14:00, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DEFAULTSORT of categories

Hi - just thought I'd point out that when you added the "Classical organists" category to Arthur Poister, you removed the "Poister, Arthur" from the "American organists" category. This had the unfortunate effect of including him in that category under "A" rather than "P". I've discovered the benefits of using the {{DEFAULTSORT:Surname, Firstname}} instruction - it's a useful one to add at the top of a list of (short!) existing list of categories to save adding "|surname, firstname" to each category you add. Apologies if you know this already! Best wishes, Bencherlite 00:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you much... I am terribly bad at this technical side of Wikipedia, including organization of articles and things... about the only thing I have done successfully so far in that realm is merging. Thanks for letting me know about the {{DEFAULTSORT:Surname, Firstname}} instruction; I will make sure to use it next time! —Cor anglais 16 (talk) 14:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello!

Just thought I'd stop by and give you a friendly hello, from one musician to another! Kntrabssi 09:11, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much... hello back! —Cor anglais 16 (talk) 14:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dom Bedos

I noticed you corrected all of the spellings for Dom Bedos de Celles in pipe organ, there were a lot of inconsistencies there! I'm not sure there is an acute on it however, looking at a quick google search anyway! Have you got it printed somewhere? How's your French: Fr:Dom Bedos de Celles...! We actually need an article to pass FA (as red links count against). Either that or we unlink it for the time. I might create a stub or something at some point.

–MDCollins (talk) 22:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, I did correct those spellings… The accent aigu comes from the spelling given in the Cambridge Companion to the Organ (index and two essays). The Grove Dictionary gives an article heading of "Bédos [Bedos] de Celles, François". Before these sources, I'd never seen it spelled with the accent. I'm inclined to go with Grove, because they're more or less the last word on music. Are we allowed to wikilink his name to the French Wikipedia? In the future, an article on Dom Bédos in the English Wikipedia would certainly be helpful. —Cor anglais 16 23:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Don't know about the French link, I'll look into it. I'd guess probably not, so maybe a short stub in English with the usual inter-language links would probably be better. The day after I posted that, I saw it myself with an accent in an "Organists Review" magazine, and if Grove and the Cam Com agree, who am I to argue??!!
Good work on the article, I'm trying to catch up after my little break.
–MDCollins (talk) 08:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Referencing - Pipe organ

Good work on the construction referencing. I've been looking into the various systems of referencing and at other FAs, and have simplified your references from the Cam Comp. I have moved the bulk of the citation to "References" (your Works Cited) - the place for the full citation, the footnote containing the author and page (and date if necessary). I'm not sure whether the weblinks can be simplified or moved, but think its ok at the moment.

The Bibliography section is now for further printed reading, obviously with the websites in External Links. In case I have got this wrong, I've asked User:Jayron32 who brought this up at peer review for his thoughts and assistance. –MDCollins (talk) 10:27, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sonata on the 94th Psalm

Hello. I've just written this article on the sonata by Julius Reubke. I found you through the project: Pipe Organ. Do you have this piece of music in your repertoire? I wonder if you would consider making a recording that we could put on the page? It would be an excellent addition to Wikipedia and make the article complete. Thanks for considering. I have also contacted a few others who listed that they were a good organist, who were listed on the pipe organ project page, so if someone notifies me that they are able to do it, I will let you know. Thanks. Clavecin 12:18, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wikibooks

Hey,

Recently I've come to think that writing a course on organ playing would be an invaluable contribution to the resources available in the Wiki network. See: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Subject:Music

The Wikibooks project, at least for music, seems to be in a far earlier stage than Wikipedia, but I am envisioning great things for it, as far as we could contribute. Let's take a specific topic, for instance: the playing of a Baroque fugue subject. We could outline general principles, such as the articulation and the weights of each subdivision - for instance, the Boe system where beats are 1 3 2 4, in order of strongest to weakest. The best part would be augmenting the article with practical examples from brief recordings we could make, not only of the subject by itself but then in context with other voices. I also feel that this would be invaluable to us in developing a comprehensive teaching system for our (likely) future students.

I think we would then be able to make this significantly known to the Web. A prominent external link on Organ (music), Pipe organ, Organist, etc. would draw in the casual crowd, and boost search results; I also think we should submit an article to the AGO and the Diapason about the project once it's sufficiently advanced to release to our national colleagues for their evaluation. That would spread the word in the organ world; they should recognize that nothing replaces an actual student-teacher relationship, and that this would be a valuable free supplemental resource.

What do you think? I envision this almost as a version of Gleason with audio samples. —Sesquialtera II (talk) 21:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, I imagine that school will keep me busy enough to prevent me from really completing the project, so the bulk of the actual work seems likely to occur in the summer, unless I acquire more time than I anticipate having. This wouldn't be an immediate project. —Sesquialtera II (talk) 01:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Wow, this sounds really cool! I'm up for it. I will check out Wikibooks soon and see what it's all about. This is exciting! —Cor anglais 16 18:39, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
I agree; this sounds like a great idea. I'll be glad to help out where I can.

-Random Pipings 10:34, 28 December 2007 (EST)

[edit] Registration

Wow! Thanks! Good jorb! Random Pipings (talk) 03:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Random Pipings

You're very welcome, though most of the content is pulled directly from Organ stop. Had to do something, though, or they were going to delete it! —Cor anglais 16 04:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Pedal keyboard

Hi, In the discussion section of the Pedal keyboard, you indicated that you would rather not have so much discussion of jazz organ. One of the unusual aspects about Wikipedia articles is that they are much more interdisciplinary and wide-ranging than articles in standard print encylopedias. I would imagine that the article on Pedal Keyboard in the Grove's dictionary spends 99% of its time discussing the use of the pedal keyboard in art music, with perhaps a passing mention of their use in pop and jazz (if at all)...............................................This reflects the Grove's dictionary's decision to focus on art music. However, Wikipedia doesn't have any pre-set limitation like this. So the Pedal keyboard article includes a discussion of the use of the pedal keyboard in art music, jazz, and pop......................................................I have been in your position, though, too. In the article on the history of the preparations that the UK made to defend itself from a amphibious sea invasion during WWII, there is a "Counterfactual" section which speculates on whether the land defenses would have been able to resist a Nazi attack. I criticized the inclusion of this "counterfactual" section, on the grounds that professional historians rarely discuss "what might have happened if..." The article's main editors argued that Wikipedia includes a wider range of sources than just mainstream professional historians..........................................Now this all being said, I think that we could have 2 separate articles: Pedal keyboard (pipe organ), Pedal keyboard (jazz organ), if you think this would be useful.Nazamo (talk) 17:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I didn't know that the pedal keyboard really had a great deal of usage differently in jazz than it does in classical music... plays the bass line, etc. Technique, I suppose, is different. I kind of regarded it as those sections on the bottom of Toccata and Fugue in D minor and Organ (music), where people simply list random sightings of the T&F and the organ in popular culture, which is pretty much useless. Two articles doesn't sound like a bad idea to me, as long as there's enough information on both subjects. We should propose it on the WikiProject Pipe Organ pages. —Cor anglais 16 17:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it would be interesting to see if other editors think that having two articles would be useful. I take a more intermediate view of the pop culture trivia sections. Let us consider the T&F. I agree with you that it is useless to have a list of every single animé cartoon, Disney cartoon, Seinfeld episode, etc, that contains one or 2 bars of the opening. However, I think that when an entire episode, movie, or short story is based on the work, it is useful to note. Let us say that there is a movie about a teen who strives to learn the T&F without a teacher, and so the T&F is interwoven throughout the movie. That would be useful to note. Or if there is a avant-garde album in which every song is based on excerpts from the T&F (retrograde inversions, etc), that would be interesting. What I do when I come to those lists is I pick out the four or so examples where the piece/song/etc is a core part of the pop culture item in question, and erase the rest...................On another side note, it is touching that 15 year olds reading Manga comics and watching Animé are aware of art music enough to note that the authors are making references to symphony X or Tone Poem Y! : ) Nazamo (talk) 17:50, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation... agreed in all cases here!—Cor anglais 16 00:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Organ FA nomination

Thanks for letting me know. I'll take a look at it soon. Sorry I haven't been as active lately as I wanted to be.  :-( You guys have been doing a great job, though! -W0lfie (talk) 22:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)