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I don't think that "Corvette" should redirect here, but to the Chevrolet_Corvette. I think that Chevrolet_Corvette is more relevant to the average user of Wikipedia. My two cents.

-Phasmatisnox 20:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, Chevrolet_Corvette should either be the default page or there should be a disambiguation page instead of this article. SolarWind

i have a coin that has a ship on one side and on the other has sreie,stadt danzig 1/2 bulden 19crown and 2 crosses then 23 so the coin is 1923 with that inbetween does anyone know what kind it is

I bet it's the same image as on the postage stamps of the time; the exact type on those is unclear, most likely a cog (ship). Stan 03:10, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Shouldn't information about a specific ship be on its own page? User:Bill73083 10:12, 19 Sept 2006

Agreed, and sorted. Emoscopes Talk 15:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Some people seem to really want information about Milgem class ships on this page. If it is so important, make a specific page about the Milgem class ships and link this page to it Bill73083 2:45, 25 Sept 2006

I added a section about corvettes during the steam age. If anyone has any information that could be added to that section, that would be really great. I also added a section about current corvette classes. If anyone can add 1 sentance about specific classes along with a link to that corvette class' wikipedia page, that would also be great. Bill73083 10:34, 17 Nov 2006

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[edit] Sail Age

"In the Royal Navy, the corvette evolved into an un-rated vessel with a single gun deck and three square rigged masts (a sloop had two square-rigged and one fore-and-aft riged masts)" This is at least unclear. Sloops were square-rigged with two (brig-sloop) or three (ship-sloop) masts of which the last as usual carried a fore-and-aft mizzen sail. As far as I now, the term corvette was usually not used in the Royal Navy until after the Napoleonic Wars. What other navys called corvette was a ship-sloop or a small sixth rate (e. g. the Sixth Rate HMS Surprise, ex French corvette L'Unite). --172.158.82.130 13:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All Corvettes inspired by USS Cole attack?

I don't accept that most modern Corvettes were inspired by the attack on the USS Cole : most coastal navies have always operated similiar vessels. 145.253.108.22 12:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)


I think that you should be a bit more careful before you simply delete a large portion of an article that people have been working on for quite some time, even if you disagree with some of its arguements. There are very subtle differences between small warships. Many warships of small size are coastal patrol craft, missile boats, etc. Some of these ships can be very advanced. I think we have to be careful not to mistake these smaller vessels with the more modern corvettes that are currently being produced by countries around the world. You do make a good point that corvettes were around before the 1990s, but that should be added to what is already there, rather than replace it. Bill73083 19:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

The original text strongly implies that the attack on the USS Cole created a need for corvettes like vessels but most of the examples pre date the Cole attack. I think it would be better to state that the littoral combat vessel was influenced by the Cole attack ( and the war on terror ) as the USN is moving towards 'brown water status'. 145.253.108.22 12:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] incomplete argument concerning "large ships are harder to defend"

The whole argument about the smaller corvette being a more capable ship, is incomplete at best, and is incorrect in my opinion. Firstly - corvette sized warships are not more capable of defending themselves against all threats, but only against the asymetric type of threat presented by a small boat attack. In my opinion when a ship is sitting tied up to a pier or at anchor she is vulnerable regardless of her size because she cannot maneuver to bring weapons to bear.

-LTNols

[edit] more

Corvettes are certainly not more capable of defending themselves against say, an anti-ship missile, or a submarine attack, or even against naval gunfire. And they are more vulnerable to attacks made by large groups of small boats than their larger counterparts, because they mount fewer defensive systems, have a smaller crew to defend against boarding actions, and have far less armour. Second - the statement "large ships are harder to defend" is simply untrue. The reason that a corvette is an attractive alternative to a larger platform is because they are simply cheaper to produce, and can serve many nations maritime interests as well as a larger ship and can do so without costing as much.

When considering the survivability of s warship many factors must be considered including installed systems, armour, damage control systems, number of weapons and ammunition carried onboard, and crew size.

-LTNols

"The earliest examples of this problem were observed during the 1982 falklands war, in which the British Royal Navy suffered considerable losses of both shipping and lives due to Argentine air strikes on inadequately defended ships."

No problem was previously stated or implied. The Falklands was not the earliest example of ASCM strikes against military targets. And again, the vulnerablity of these ships had nothing to do with their size, as the British aircraft carrier present was not attacked. By this argument that "bigger ships are harder to defend" the carrier would have been hit before the smaller Type 42 destroyers and the frigates that were hit.

LT Nols

So I've given it a couple of weeks, and I've cleaned up the section on Modern Corvettes. I've removed references to the USS Cole as a reason to build Corvettes as it is untrue and illogical. All ships are equally vulnerable when inport, and niether size or installed systems have anything to do with Force Protection against asymetric threats while sitting alongside. All corvettes currently in service were planned, if not already afloat prior to the attack on USS Cole. I've also removed the references to the Falklands war, as the size of the British warships had nothing to do with Argentine success against them.

LT Nols

[edit] Indonesia corvettes

The Indonesian Navy will receive indigenously designed corvettes, called 104 M corvette in 2008. It is possible, the corvette will be armed with C-802, which is already installed in the locally-built Fast Patrol Boat FPB-57.

The following statement is both unverified and incorrect and will be removed. 1) There are 'plans' to install the C802 to the FPB-57. Non are installed yet. One 1 set of C802 was bought 2) Indigenously designed corvette program based on Italian Orrizonte Sistem Navali S.P.A (Ficantieri Shipyard) hull appears to be shelved in favor of Russian corvettes.

03:00, 15 September 2007 (UTC)