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[edit] NPOV

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"Corvallis is as horrible place to live. Witness http://mp3.com/10k for proof."

This may be, but it's not exactly NPOV. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.15.135.xxx (talk • contribs) .

I actually don't mind living in Corvallis, even if there's nothing to do. It's a nice place. Does anyone know if those population statistics include OSU students? Quickbeam
I'm pretty sure it does. To be honest that number is larger than what I would expect. I always assumed the student population to be more near 1/2 of the population than 1/3 :) Sarge Baldy
I have quite fond memories of growing up in corvallis in the eighties. I moved to Salem for High School and my memories of Corvallis are far better. I look back on it fondly from the Bay Area in California where I live now...and would even consider moving back some time.AMB 21:13, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

[edit] Most Churches

I wonder about the "most churches per capita" claim, since a bit of Googling around shows plenty of places that make that argument. Is there some hard data to back this up? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.224.205.153 (talk • contribs) .

I added that bit of trivia a while back, as I have heard that from two different sources including an OSU professor I had. I also added the unreferenced tag at the same time in in hopes of someone being able to find a source for that bit of info (as well as for the other large claims in the trivia section I added, which I have seen from other sources). Feel free to delete it as nobody has found a reliable source for that as of yet, if I come accross one I'll just re-add it. As for most education and library use per capita in the nation, I read those in an promotional packet in the Albany train station waiting for an Amtrak train to come. If someone lives near there and can pick up a copy as to properly source it, that would be helpful. VegaDark 07:02, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Corndog Day

Since trivia sections are discouraged, how about we move the corn dog trivia to the people section? The two founders of corn dog day could be listed there.--WikiGuy3 (talk) 04:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

A week has gone by without further comment. I intend to make the change now. I hope everyone finds it acceptable. --WikiGuy3 (talk) 04:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] class project

I've reverted the chatty material about hiking that somebody allegedly put in as an OSU class project; it had some actual data in it, but needed so much work that it wasn't worth the effort of turning it into an article. It is still on the history page, if a teacher needs to see it. - DavidWBrooks 11:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rankings and recognition section

"About Corvallis URL accessed 11 May 2006" does not satisfy my reading of WP:RS. The five entries citing that reference must be deleted unless reliable sources can be found. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks like a fine reference to me. What part of WP:RS do you think it violates? VegaDark 03:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, now that I take another look at it I do see why there could be concerns. It says "rumor and fact" for the claims on that page. Does that mean that it is both rumor and fact, or that mean some of the claims are rumors and some are facts? I would say we should try and find a better reference for the things that is used as a reference for, but I wouldn't necessarily say that what is currently there should be deleted, at least not for a week or so after cite needed tags have been placed on the info. VegaDark 03:32, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
this link rehashes the same claims made on that page without stating it as possible rumors, hence would pass WP:RS. Odds are that they just got the info from that about Corvallis page in the first place though, but who knows. VegaDark 03:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
It seems to me that this list is not verifiable in that it is not published by a reputable publisher. I don't know anything about the editorial standards of "Visit Corvallis Oregon" or "Coho Cohousing" web sites and I doubt that many of my fellow editors do either. By way of contrast, I have more confidence in the Corvallis Gazette-Times and I think it qualifies as a reliable source under Wikipedia guidelines. Moreover, I deem the list to be a compilation based on published news sources, if indeed it is accurate. Consequently, we editors need to track down those sources and cite them with their dates of publication so that they can be verified. Please see WP:V, also. Cite tags don't seem appropriate to me since the items are cited. My opinion is that the article would benefit from shorter, but better sourced and more notable list. I think it is telling that so many of the organizations allegedly conferring recognition are redlinked. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 04:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revisited

Is this section even encyclopedic? I think any relevant info should be merged with the rest of the article and the section deleted. The article needs a history section, which when written could include a mention that "Corvallis has recieved many awards over the years, including blahblahblah", listing the more notable ones and citing the sources. Thoughts? Katr67 20:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

I added this section and I think everything that is sourced (which happens to be everything) should stay in the article, although I agree it would be better to merge the info into the body of the article. VegaDark 23:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Though it's not the best example (because the Eugene article needs a lot of cleanup), Corvallis is similar to Eugene, Oregon in that it could stand to have a Community or Culture section to address the unique (read: countercultural) aspects of the city, and some of the rankings (bikes, vegetariansim) info could go in there. As long as it's not written like a review, of course. Sections like that tend to attract a lot of POV and original research. Katr67 23:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, a lot needs to be written/rewritten, and hopefully the rankings section can be eliminated by the end if we can incorporate all the info to these sections. VegaDark 23:28, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Katr67 that it should be integrated. Also should "rankings" that are more than 5 years old be included? And shouldn't the OSU campus safety/beauty things go there and not on Corvallis? Aboutmovies 00:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Katr and AM. I don't think the specific rankings, or their sources, belong in the text of the article; something along the lines of "Corvallis has been considered, by various entities, to be among the top US cities for bicycling, doing busines, …" would be worthwhile, with a couple footnotes to support it. Also, yes, the OSU-specific items should be moved to that page. -Pete 01:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Photographs?

If any Wikipedian lives in Corvallis, is it possible that you could take some photographs that better represent what the town looks like apart from public buildings? Maybe some photos of the nature surrounding/included in the town, shots of long distance vistas, the main street(s), et cetera? Wowbobwow12 01:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC)