Talk:Cornish self-government movement

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[edit] Feasibility

Serious question - do you guys actually think Cornwall could make it as an independent state? It's said in several places on the Wiki that it's one of the poorest regions of the UK, so how is cutting ties to England/Britain going to help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.38.32.84 (talk) 13:36, 9th February 2007

This is a misinterpretation of the article - self government wouldn't necessarily mean ceceding from the UK. Many Cornish would like to have more say in there own governance but wouldn't want to cut ties with the rest of the UK.

As a philisophical point could Cornwall make it as an independant state, I would probably say yes, but it wouldn't necessarily be advisable. If Cornwall were to maintain membership of the EU then it would have access to much more financial support and the poorest regions thing would act in its favour here (just look at Eire as a good example of how EU investment has been successful). Alternatively outside of the EU, given full control over its own taxation policy then I think Cornwall would probably do better than you think (think tax havens and the Isle of Mann). Do I think it'll ever happen? NoMammal4 13:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

It would appear that many Cornish people would like recognition of their Cornish ethnicity (for example on UK census forms), recognition from the goverment under the Council of Europe's Framework Convention for the Protection of National Minorities and more say in self governance in the form of a Cornish Assembly, similar to that of the Welsh Assembly. As mentioned above not many would advocate full independence because the vast majority wish to remain part of the UK - here are some examples.

• Cornish ethnicity on the UK census
• Cornish awareness and culture
• Cornish ethnicity and identity
• Cornish Stannary Parliament
• Cornish and English identity —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.134.78.135 (talk) 10:22, 1st April 2007

People tend to forget that before the British government started slapping extra taxes onto the tin miners, halting our china clay production and before the Duke decided he'd use all of our money externaly, we we're one of the richest places on earth. If we were given greater control of our nation then we would quickly be able to support ourselves once more. Fletch 2002 (talk) 01:19, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Blood of the Isles

I think that it is worth typing in the bit from the famous genetics book "The Blood of the Isles" on this issue. In it, the author says that the Celts may have never existed as a tribe. The Celtic language group was identified, and some people then got the idea that these people must have all been part of the same race initially. The Cornish language is actually just a version of Welsh that has altered over time.

I would put up this commentary right now if I had the book on me. As it happens, I can't even remember what the author's name is. Once I find the book, I'll find the relevant page references. Until then, just thought that I'd put it up here in case anyone has any strong objections. Epa101 21:33, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Bryan Sykes was the author. Epa101 21:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Welsh and Cornish (and Breton etc) are both versions of a former British Celtic language. They have diverged over time due to geographical isolation and other factors. Cornish is not "just a version of Welsh". Mrscruffy 18:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

A nation does not exist in the blood of people but rather in culture, production (artefacts), territoriality and time. It seems that Cornwall exhibits these characteristics: Cornish people have a common original language and share some specific traditions (culture), they have been living on a specific territory for a long time, and they have produced some works of art, an original architecture and some literature (artefacts). 207.134.187.165

I don't understand why everyone assumes these people are talking about "race"/genetics. Celtic identity (infact, cultural identity in general) is not about those irrelevent factors, it's about language and culture. It's almost as if people are wilfully misinterprating Celtic nationalism and related movements as being racially motivated in order to both discredit them and portray the supporters as racists. --86.144.101.168 (talk) 13:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk page maintenance

This talk page was becoming rather long, and many comments had not been signed. I have added {{unsigned}} to those comments which needed it, and have also archived all threads which did not shew any activity this year (2008). I have also added a "talk page header", which includes a link to the archive, and will automatically generate a link to further archives as they are added in the future. DuncanHill (talk) 10:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)