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[edit] Fringe ideas

The article is full of revisionist and fringe theories presented as mainstream scholarly views, it needs to to be throughly checked for POV and inaccuracies by an expert. --Mardavich 02:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Are Roman/Greek sources Fringe? :). Please explain in detail your concerns.Heja Helweda 02:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Don't remove the tag, I have nominated the article to be checked by a neutral expert. Lumping corduene with Kurds and Kurdistan is not mainstream scholarly view. --Mardavich 02:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Please calm down. Have you checked the sources? Read the discussion by Rawlinson [1] The word(carduene) is no doubt the ancient representative of the modern Kurdistan, and means a country in which Kurds dwelt..Heja Helweda 02:24, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Which one?

This article is on history of Roman Corduene or the earlier independent land inhabited by Corduchi? To my understating even Iranians had this land as their Satrapy before Romans did. Maybe we remove text from this page and create new articles? Confusing anyways. HeviyaJiyan

The current article is focused on Roman Corduene from 66BC to early 5th century. Persians wanted to take over these lands during Achamenides, but the indigenous population (Carduchis) mainly resisted Persian attempts of conquest. For more on this see History of the Kurds.Heja Helweda 20:55, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Internally inconsistent

Article states that the name is from Armenian and that it was an Armenian kingdom and then says that the name is a corruption of Kurd and has always been Kurdish. Can't be both, guys.

Please try to stick to facts and avoid ideological/nationalist blinders! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.19.85.51 (talk) 14:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Xenophon's account

The part referring to Xenophon doesn't quite agree with the sources (Anabasis, Book IV). What Xenophon says (and seems quite reasonable) is that the Greeks decided to cross the Zagros mountains into modern-day Turkey, but they had no food, guides or interpreters. So they proceeded as they could and looted the local villages for food, but they did not harm the villagers or steal their chattels in case the Karduchi agreed to let them pass without a fight. That did not happen, however, and the Greek army had to fight all the way to the plains (where the Karduchi retreated back into their own mountains and the Greek army continued its march north towards the Greek city of Trabzon). Xenophon also states that the casualties of the Greek army while crossing the Zagros mountains were higher than their entire losses by their Persian enemies. 212.107.31.35 15:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)