Talk:Conscious business

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I note that the unusual name ALIA is shared by the person who started this wiki page AND the Operations person, ALIA BRALEY, of fallingfruit.tv Same person? Of course. Falling Fruit is a new business that is pushing Conscious Business and is NOT a proper, objective source for content on this page. Ironic, isn't it? Supposedly a Conscious enterprize is highly ethical, yet here we see blatently unethical conduct. Tsk, tsk. --172.193.142.167 20:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Hey There, I am Alia, and indeed I am the person working at FallingFruit.tv and the writer of this wiki article. And you are right again, we are "pushing" conscious business. There is no Wiki page currently (I have looked thoroughly) which captures the Conscious Business Movement. It is a phenomena that has been recognized far before we at Falling Fruit decided to make a netcast show that delves into the topic philosophically. It is my opinion that Wikipedia needed an article on this topic: it is a highly relevant, highly active, and important social phenomenon. I did not present Falling Fruit within the article as being important in this movement (right now, we are not). Instead, I said what I know and have been considering and studying in various for-profit and non-profit endeavors over the last few years. I also did not put the link to my company's website on the bottom of the page. I found out today that this was done by a co-worker of mine. I share his sentiments. If we were scientists researching frogs in the Amazon, we would link relevant articles to our research. There are books which delve into the concepts of Conscious Business deeper than our netcasts have yet (we are a new company), but for online resources (which are the things one would link to), our content is of the highest relevance I have found. I am aware that I currently do not have the ability to write an article on Conscious Business that is well-researched enough for Wikipedia, but I was under the impression that people would take the basic article that I began, and completely transform it using their own sphere of knowledge. If that is not how this works, I am happy to have my post taken off the website. If that is how it works, I encourage you and others to change what needs to be changed, whether it is the articles content, links, etc. I deeply believe in the importance of the Conscious Business movement, and I am glad that I wrote and article, and perhaps am now having an interesting conversation that will bring more attention- perhaps from people more skilled at writing Wikipedia articles- to the fantastic ways business can use their social and fiscal power. Thanks for keeping us on our toes, - Alia Braley

Alia, the point of a wiki article is not to promote your business or yourself or, even, because it is so very important. The article should be encyclopedic; it is supposed to be objective. I am critical of your effort, and the effort of Falling Fruit, because of a failure of objectivity. This article should not be an ad. It is not supposed to "bring more attention ... to the fantastic ways business can use their social and fiscal power." It is supposed to be baldly, blandly objective. --Enkido (talk) 23:11, 11 December 2007 (UTC)