Talk:Concise list of Roman Emperors
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See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Concise List of Roman Emperors for an August 2004 deletion debate over this page.
I created this page in response to the comments to my work on the List of Roman Emperors page.
Within seconds of it being posted it has been listed for Votes for Deletion.
Clearly whatever I do I can't win.
--JohnArmagh 06:06, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- If you want to continue working on this right away, collect the previous version from article history and just re-create as a subpage User:JohnArmagh/Concise List of Roman Emperors. I didn't even get a chance to look at it before it was VfDed, but as a page in your space it's offlimits to the overzealous, and we can talk about it there just as well as anywhere. (BTW, thanks for adding some of the other lists; African kingdoms are underrepresented here.) Stan 16:35, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Getting back to work
OK, now that we're done with the VfD hassle, let's get back to discussion. We need to define the scope of each list precisely enough that future editors can come along and say "OK that all makes sense" and help improve the details, rather than rearranging everything each time. As I see it, there is room for lots of lists, as long as each one offers a unique searching/browsing capability. The basic "List of Roman Emperors" I think should be the basic list, in a standard list form, or as a simple table - see List of British monarchs for instance, which sticks to link, years, and a note about family relationship. The more detailed version, with titles and such, could maybe be Table of Roman Emperors or such, and the very long Roman Emperor split into a general discussion with the rest either added to the table, or else made into a Narrative of Roman Emperors (IMHO Roman Emperor is well on the way to being a History of the Roman Empire). In any case, overall we have too much emperor information for one article, so we have to split it one way or another - I favor the "deepening detail" approach, where readers start with something simple, and click to ask for greater depth. Stan 16:35, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I have noticed that there is actually a lot more useful information (as opposed to tables pretending to contain useful information) in this article than in List of Roman Emperors -- perhaps if this list contained only common names and dates, and the Notes were moved to the Notes section at List of Roman Emperors, then the articles would not be seen as such duplicates.
