Talk:Comparison of layout engines (HTML)

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[edit] Engine order?

Is there any particular convention for the order the engines are listed in the tables?
How about alphabetical or reverse alphabetical. · Reisio 08:34, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] abbr and object in Trident

abbr will be supported in IE 7 Beta 2. object fallback will be "improved" too. Prepare for update when IE 7 is out. --minghong 05:18, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Here's the final word on it. I'm going to update the article accordingly. — Jaxad0127 20:09, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] almost standards mode

Opera has now a standards mode as well. See also http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/sgml/doctypeSGML.html

[edit] Numbers in Tables

I think either the explanation of the numbers in the tables or the numbers themselves have to change...

Paragraph 3 of the article says the numbers are "version" numbers...

But the very first entry, the "HTML" entry for Trident says "5"

According to the page on Trident, Trident 5 is Internet Explorer 7, which hasn't been released yet.

Does this mean that HTML isn't supported in IE6? Of course not; it appears the page is trying to say it was supported in IE5, which was Trident 2. But then the heading should be "IE/Windows", or the number should be "2" to match the heading.

[edit] accessibility

There's no information regarding the support of accessibility features such as tabindex and accesskey attributes here.

[edit] right statement, wrong example

"The amount of emulation differs between the layout engines, e.g. Presto uses the standardized W3C box layout model even in quirks mode." - this is not correct; since version 7 Presto uses border-box model. I think Gecko is meant. Test (german). --Grey

Okay... maybe the statement was meant with some version of Opera 9 in mind. It behaves exactly like Gecko, i.e. even in quirksmode it uses content-box model. Will change article to reflect that. Swift says content-box. Anyone test in iCab, Konqueror, Safari? --Grey 17:57, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Original research?

How is this not original research? Vonfraginoff 12:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

The matter is discussed elsewhere. There are sources in each article of the series that verify almost all data for the "major" browsers. Several people have suggested to move/import this to Wikibooks, but ultimately, there is no consensus on what to do with comparison articles. This series is especially well seen and a good online reference. The one that tries to excessively delete information will face hard opposition. Most of it actually is verifyable, but most often the sources are not cited (and of course there is original research involved, too, but there is barely any information that can't be confirmed some way). --Grey 00:56, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Table Reformatting

Just wondering, would anyone be annoyed if the table cells were changed to "rowspan" attributes? That's how it is in the CSS comparison. Moronicles 20:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

You will find that most of this has been removed in the CSS article (by minghong if I remember correctly), because it makes editing a pain and thus scares people off from contributing. And although I don't expect much change in these tables, I'm still against it. Thanks for asking. Grey 06:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Test Suites

Where the test suites can be obtained to check / augment the tables? We should make these test suites publicly avaiable to make this information verifieble, to conform to Wikipedia standards. --Maxim Masiutin 00:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Doctype sniffing section

Is there a unified definition of what exactly "Standard", "Quirks" and "Almost Standard" modes actually are and what they do or does each browser have its own definition of exactly what these mean? Also there are no sources provided for anything other than Firefox and Opera, yet there is information for other browsers which appears to be OR. -- Gudeldar 09:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Can't the detailed information be found in Quirks mode article and it's references ? --Fenring 11:03, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
OK, I deleted the table and everythink and stored it in User:Mabdul/quriks-old.
The table in Quirks mode article is updated and better now. if somebody want to add the table again here in this article, don't be shy, I don't know how! Mabdul (talk) 09:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)