Talk:College of St Hild and St Bede

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This article isn't neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndTheRest (talk • contribs) 18:12, 19 November 2006

Would you please elaborate on this? — cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 03:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Phrases such as these don't seem very neutral to me:

"Hild Bede's sporting reputation is without an equal"

“a proud record that belies the club's cavalier and laid back attitude, which nevertheless consistently produces great teams and great results”

“Many old boys of this great institution”

HereItIsNow 01:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

May not be neutral but they're all true :) -- Ex Hild Beder

[edit] Motto

May be deliberate but the inscription of the motto as i remember it is "eadEm mutata resurgo" Which also makes more sense within Latin. Could anyone confirm either way? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.234.4.1 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, that's correct, as it's also on James Bernoulli's gravestone. It's probably just a type here, so I'll change it. Given that the translations also vary, I'll also change it to the most popular translation used by people within the college. — cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 16:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
just wondering baout the translation. "Changed and yet the same, I rise again", "I arise again the same though changed" and "Though changed I rise again the same" all seem fairly common usage. Is the one we have the best fit? not saying it isn't just thinking aloud 129.234.4.10 12:10, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I changed it to the one I'd heard the most around college, though apparently the original of "I rise again changed but the same" is most used: see [1] and [2]. Feel free to change it back. — cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 14:45, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I've changed it back; with the various translations for college mottos floating around (see the Hatfield page) I think it's best to stick to the University-approved ones - though if another can be shown to be widely used we could mention that too. TSP 17:14, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mighty Hild Bede

A phrase in common useage within the college and University is "the Mighty Hild Bede" this is how it is refered to within the Durham Student Union Meetings, and should be amended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.234.4.76 (talk • contribs)

A search of DSU minutes gives no hits for the phrase. Google gives two hits, both from Hild Beders. And, for what it's worth, four hits for "the Mighty Hatfield", the first from Hild Bede's own website... might be best to drop this one, I think. :-) TSP 20:40, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree. I'm from Hild Bede, and I've never heard anyone use that particular phrase. — cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 21:55, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
As another current student i do actually use the phrase "Mighty Hild Bede", and have heard many others use it as well. It is, according to our principal, a relatively new phrase to enter the hild bede vernacular however is growing in usage. Another example of this is the word "fleetwood", which apparently stems back to freshers fortnight 2006 and a joke made by the then SRC Treasurer of the college, Lewis Black. It means something which is not good - eg. if i were to say "this music is fleetwood" i would be expressing my dislike of it.
As the current chair of the DSU council I can say quite categorically that the phrase "The Mighty Hild Bede" has been used on a regular basis. Its use in meetings was instituted by the previous Hild Bede Senior DSU rep, Matt Aldridge, and is now regularly heard in meetings. So there.
Sounds like WP:NEO is the relevant guideline here.
"Neologisms that are in wide use — but for which there are no treatments in secondary sources — are not yet ready for use and coverage in Wikipedia. They may be in time, but not yet."
So, great, the phrase is in use. That doesn't mean it belongs in Wikipedia. TSP 22:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update

I think this page needs a revamp. For one the "Students" section is really a sports section and the think it needs references to other things such as some of the other societies and clubs in the college such as the chapel choir, bede film soc, the vernon arms, musical society, and other sports such as badminton, squash etc. I am a current student but dont have much knowledge of most of the sports aspect so if anyone else would like to update that otherwise i will rename the "Student" section to sports and remodel the page a little. CCJ (talk) 14:00, 24 April 2008 (UTC)