Talk:College logic
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Is "college logic" a discrete term? Or is this just a discussion of how logic is taught? Regardless, this doesn't seem to have much to recommend it that isn't covered in logic. — Adam Conover † 04:38, May 13, 2004 (UTC)
I agree. This page should redirect to logic. -- LegCircus
College logic is a distinct sort of logic, namely the kind of logic taught in compulsory introductory courses to students to improve their reasoning skills. I think there's some case fopr a broader article on this topic, but we need a better name for it. I'm discussing this more on the Talk: Logic page. --- Charles Stewart 16:43, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
I also agree. This should be merged with logic. Apparently, College logic still is logic. Why should we segregate the two? --keith_aquino
College logic isn't really even a subset of logic: it's about the relation of logic and education. I like Charles Stewart's suggestion to have an article titled Logic and pedagogy. I think College Logic should be directed there. If you went to Logic expecting it to explain how logic is employed by education, you would be disappointed-- unless somebody wrote a subsection about it, which wouldn't be good since logic and pedagogy (or college logic) is of little importance to understanding logic-- it's too minor a detail for an article that covers such a broad topic. -Chira 04:35, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
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I've moved the contents of the articel to the talk page. I can't see much that would benifit Logic, so I won;t attempt to integrate any of this content with that article. but I don;t want to delete the content in case it is used in the proposed Logic and pedagogy article.
Logic is the study of argument — not angry disagreements or fisticuffs, but instead the giving of reasons to believe things. College logic is a contemporary name for logic presented as a pedagogic subject, in a tradition that goes back two millennia. As it is studied in a traditional first logic course in college (based on traditional logic), logic is the study of (1) argument form, (2) the qualities (of arguments) of validity, cogency, and soundness, and (3) how to construct, identify, interpret, and evaluate various kinds of arguments. Traditional treatments of logic have included discussion of not just arguments, but the varieties and standards of definitions, as well. Logic, like mathematics and physics, has a theoretical part and an applied part. Parts (1) and (2) of the above-described definition together describe the theoretical part of logic, and (3) describes the applied part. Just as a nonmathematician learning physics should study mathematics in order to use or apply mathematics well, a nonlogician in any task that requires reasoning, such as confirming rational beliefs, should study logic to learn how to use or apply logic well. Moreover, like mathematics and physics (and many other subjects), one has to practice quite a bit if one wants to gain any facility in using logic. Therefore, logic teachers will frequently assign students to analyze real-life arguments, in roughly the fashion as can be found in the Sherlock Holmes article under the "Holmesian deduction" heading. See also traditional logic and Aristotelian logic. For comparison, see multi-valued logic.
Banno 22:52, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
