Talk:Cofer Black

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Contents 1 BS sentance 2 Update necessary for Bio 3 Clarity and verifiability problems 4 Medals 5 Bob Woodward - State of Denial - Chapter 6 page 49

[edit] BS sentance

Biased and misleading sentence: "He worked in South Africa during the racist apartheid regime's dirty war against guerrilla movements representing the black majority."

The CIA DID NOT support RSA against a domestic terrorist/guerrilla threat. The CIA did however incite the SANW to invade Angola (against the Cuban backed Marxist MPLA), they however did not provide material support. They MAY have provided arms for UNITA. None of these actions happened in SA!

This is again a biased sentence that is aimed at smearing Confer Black, using ill-informed stereotypes.

A few more problems: The RSA before 1994 should be named a "White Minority Government", not a regime. In a regime, power can not change hands. In South Africa, power could have changed hands between different parties (even though only white persons were allowed to vote).

Secondly, using a sentence written in that form can smear anybody. For instance, lets assume there is a UN aid worker helping poor people in an informal settlements. Good guy, works for the United Nations. He gives poor people food and medicine. Lets say his name is John Goody. Lets put his name in the exact same sentence:

"John Goody worked in South Africa during the racist apartheid regime's dirty war against guerrilla movements representing the black majority."

All of it is "factually" true, but biased. Questions ? Was John Goody working for the SA "regime"? Was he racist? Did he participate against the "dirty war"? The answer is NO. But the biased sentence suggests it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.207.47.60 (talk) 19:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Update necessary for Bio

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney in a press release (can be found on his website) announced the appointment of Cofer Black to head his campaign. This addition may be rather important as the race progresses. (I'm awfully green at this, I'll leave any changes to any, or all of you to make. Thanks.)

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Rawkcuf. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rawkcuf (talk • contribs) 15:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clarity and verifiability problems

I'm wondering if the entire paragraph relating to Black's tenure at State should be removed. There's no substantiation about claims of a "botched" report (whatever that means), nor is it clear what this section is trying to say. Also, it veers toward bias. At the very least it should be verified and rewritten accordingly. Alcarillo 21:55, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I cleaned the aforementioned paragraph up, but the information really needs to be verified and cited. I will look into this, as well as recent the news involving Black, Tenet and Condoleeza Rice regarding a Jul 01 memo. It would be helpful -- and more expedient -- if the article author's reviewed the sources they have. Alcarillo 16:55, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Medals

The only other references on the net for the "George H. Bush Medal for Excellence" are other biographies of Black. Can anyone substantiate, or point to a reference explaining what this medal is?

[edit] Bob Woodward - State of Denial - Chapter 6 page 49

Regarding where Cofer Black was in 2001, this may? help.
"On July 10, 2001, CIA Director george Tenet met with his counterterrorism chief, Cofer Black, at CIA headquarters to review the latest on Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda terror organization." -- Martin | talk • contribs 05:49, 7 March 2007 (UTC)