Talk:Codependence/Archive 1

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codependency as pop psychology

I clarified some of the article to correctly portray codependency as pop psychology and removed some of the 1st person POV entries Mr Christopher 20:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Mr Christopher, I think you have gone overboard with your changes, We need to discuss this some more, I think. I added POV tag. --FloNight ^talk 07:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

To be clear, this article is copy-pasted from a sketchy-seeming site called allabouttherapy.com, which seems to be pushing the readers to get therapy from some Melody person, so I would *seriously* doubt it neutrality

I object to co-dependence being treated as a disorder as opposed to a symptom (of perhaps depression). I believe co-dependence can be mistakenly attributed to healthy individuals who choose that behavior rather than unhealthy people who are plagued by it. Eddietoran 19:28, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

12 step programs no good; comment on Scott Peck

The NY Times a few days ago (see [1]) reported a study by researchers, led by Marica Ferri of the Italian Agency for Public Health in Rome, which found little or no support for the efficacy of 12-step programs. A big promoter (if not the originator) of the "codependency" cachet was M. Scott Peck. In the early 1980's he published 2 books, "The Road Less Traveled" and "People of the Lie," which I had foisted on me by an acquaintance when I was hospitalized a few days. In one of these books Peck describes trying to play chess with his daughter (who was in late elementary school or middle school) and running past her bedtime. He reports wanting to win so much he kept her up very late and messed up her following school day. He felt so bad he went into weeks of depression and got extensive psychotherapy.

I submit that anyone who acts like that (who would not know to put a marker on the chess board as to whose turn it was, and shelve it till next day?) is a fool, and if he puts it in a book for public sale he is a worse fool. OK, codependent behaviors exist and are identifiable, but they should not become a preoccupation or a mantra for people with time on their hands.

I doubt this caused clinical depression. It may have brought other issues to light.

Anyone anxious to beat a little girl at chess should be launched into the sun. CeilingCrash 18:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

24.177.122.186 03:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)