Talk:Cloak
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Removed the Naruto line, as the specific example just didn't fit the listing of general usages listed. And a listing of every character in every book that uses a cloak is not something to be useful for a fashion page (and certainly wasn't for me when I browsed here hoping for the distinction between cloak and cape). It's not even a good (or clear) example of "cloak and dagger"--it seemed only to have that phrase and not its meaning--as opposed to the Harry Potter example which is clear, useful, and short. --Squeeself 10:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
- Interesting question. In contemporary usage, I would say a cape has shaped shoulders and a cloak doesn't, but that distinction is not true historically (some 16th and 17th century capes have sleeves and are almost indistinguishable from jackets). - PKM
- In my mind, a cape is generally a shorter, narrower cloak, not intended to be able to wrap entirely around a person. I also have never heard of a cape with a hood (unlike cloaks, which frequently (or always) have them). According to the OED (for Cloak):
- 1. A loose outer garment worn by both sexes over their other clothes.
- 2. a. An academical or clerical gown; particularly the Geneva gown. Obs. or arch.
- According to the OED (for Cape):
- ¹A cloak with a hood; a cloak or mantle generally; an ecclesiastical cope. (obsolete)
- ²1. A Spanish cloak (with a hood). Obs.
- 2. The tippet of a cloak or similar garment, being an additional outer piece attached to it at the neck and hanging loose over the shoulders (e.g. in old riding-cloaks, infants' pelisses, etc.).
- 3. a. A separate article of attire, being a kind of short loose sleeveless cloak, fitting round the neck and falling over the shoulders as a protection against rain or cold. Waterproof capes of this kind are in common use.
- If you eliminate the obsolete definitions, you can get a sense that a cape is a lesser version of a cloak. The Jade Knight 00:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
- In my mind, a cape is generally a shorter, narrower cloak, not intended to be able to wrap entirely around a person. I also have never heard of a cape with a hood (unlike cloaks, which frequently (or always) have them). According to the OED (for Cloak):
