Talk:Cliff House

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[edit] Proposed External Link

I propose this website be included in the external links section: www.CliffHouseProject.com

It contains hundreds of historic photographs, also historical information. This is my own website, so someone other than me would need to feel the same way and do the edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary.stark@earthlink.net (talkcontribs) 09:18, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

Hello? Testing...testing.... (crickets chirping in background) --Gary.stark@earthlink.net 14:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Gary, I did find your site when I was checking info from the Cliff House article, so I will add it to the main article page. Did you have fun yesterday? Have a good weekend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinned Elk (talkcontribs) 18:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, we had a great time. We parked at the far end of the Golden Gate Bridge and walked the length just for fun. I can't think of many places in the world as dramatic as this! --Gary.stark@earthlink.net 20:33, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and thanks for the link addition! --Gary.stark@earthlink.net 20:35, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spam?

I propose all or part of the "San Francisco Attraction" section be deleted. For the most part it has NOTHING to do with the Cliff House. "IT'S IT Ice Cream"? "Stonestown Galleria"? "San Francisco 49ers"? Give me a break. This is pure commercialism of wikipedia. Any tourist really wanting this junk can find it on the main "San Francisco" page, just a click away.

You're really having a hard time understanding the functionality of the "Attractions" template, aren't you? - Dudesleeper · Talk 17:03, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes I am. That's why I threw it open to others to contribute...perhaps someone else can explain the Ice Cream - Cliff House connection for me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary.stark@earthlink.net (talkcontribs) 17:42, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

The navigation box that contains the San Francisco attractions is not spam, it is another way for people to find information about San Francisco and to go to a relevant page. The box appears on all of the "attractions" pages as well as the San Francisco page. The attractions are related by the fact that they are notable enough to have pages in Wiki and they are in San Francisco. If you want to challenge the content of the navigation template, I suggest you do so on the discussion page for the template. The fact that it is included in this page does not make it spam and should NOT be a subject for editing wars. Another place to discuss the content might be on the Wikipedia:WikiProject San Francisco Bay Area. If you feel offended by the content you can chose to hide the box by clicking the hide option in the upper right corner. When I get a chance I will check out your website. It seems that it might be a good resource for people wanting more info about the Cliff House. It would also be helpful if you signed your comments and even created a user name for yourself if you feel strongly about the Wiki project. Thanks!--Tinned Elk 17:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I live in San Jose, south of SF. This morning I'm taking my kids into town just for fun. I haven't decided if we'll swing by the Cliff House, but I can tell you this...I would never in my wildest imagination think to look in an article about the Cliff House to find out the best attractions in SF. I would look in an article about San Francisco. It's incomprehensible to me that you think someone would be researching the Cliff House and say "Oh look, huney! Here's a link on Ice Cream sandwiches! Let's go check that out next! And after that we'll go visit the empty stadium where the 49ers play (nowhere near the Cliff House)! Wow...what a fun day ahead!" Stuffing wikipedia pages full of pointless links helps move those topics up the search engine rankings, but little else. Nearly 30% of the verbiage on the Cliff House article is devoted to this nonsense. Yes you can hide it, but I suspect you would oppose strenuously making it hidden by default. As for pursuing this template silliness down elsewhere, no thanks. I have no interest in cleaning up all of wikipedia...just the Cliff House page. --Gary.stark@earthlink.net 13:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
[Slaps head]. Enjoy your day with your family. - Dudesleeper · Talk 13:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)