Talk:Cleveland Torso Murderer

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Delisted version: August 9, 2006


Needs a bit more polish - I believe he always beheaded his victims, for instance.

Brian Rock 03:54, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)

How does one murder a torso? RickK 03:56, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Well, I don't know, exactly, why they gave such a strange name - actually several - to the killer. The beheadings really got to folks, and I guess they just put "Torso" and "Murderer" together. Another name frequently used is the "Torso Killer" - your comment applies, but it sounds even worse.

I also never figured out why the Kingsbury/Kinsbury run spellings aren't consistent.

Thanks for the help.

Brian Rock 04:16, 23 Jan 2004 (UTC)


The graphic novel by Brian Micheal Bendis 'Torso' which details Eliot Ness and his time with the investigation, is possibly worthy of inclusion on the main page. I leave it to someone else who has read the piece to determine.


In the short story The Kingsbury Technique, Al Capone contacts the demon Unruh to avenge himself on Elliott Ness. Unruh on a mid-August day in 1934, infects second generation Hungarian alchoholic Dolezal with a brain tumor, who went on to act as the Torso murderer. Unruh also served as the power behind Charles Whitman, Richard Speck, and the murderer of Elizabeth Short (in this story Harold Blane). This work by Wayne Allen Sallee and Sean Doolittle.

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[edit] Pictures needed

I've put a request on Wikipedia:Requested pictures for one or more pictures of the victims' death masks that the Cleveland Police Museum has (had?) on display. If any of you frequent downtown Cleveland during business hours and could drop in and take some digital photos (if it's allowed), I think we can get the article promoted to a feature article. Thanks. Catbar (Brian Rock) 00:51, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Delisted GA

This article did not go through the current GA nomination process. Looking at the article as is, it fails on criteria 2b of the GA quality standards. No references are provided and the citation of sources is essential for verifiability. Most Good Articles use inline citations. I would recommend that this be fixed, to reexamine the article against the GA quality standards, and to submit the article through the nomination process. --RelHistBuff 12:58, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "G-man" or "Untouchable"?

In the "Suspects" section, Eliot Ness is referred to as a "G-man" but I have only ever seen this term used to apply to agents of the FBI; and this is how the WP article "G-man" defines it too. I will assume that the writer meant to say "Untouchable" and will change the article accordingly. Hi There 06:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fiction about the Torso Murders

Steven Swiniarski's "The Flesh, the Blood, and the Fire" inserts the efforts of a master vampire to take over the city into a number of events from Cleveland history of the 1930s and 1940s. The Torso Murders are the focus of much of the book. 75.111.32.81 23:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Official Murder" expression

"Most investigators consider the last official murder to have been in 1938."
Is there such thing as an official murder? Seems like to me like bad wording, but since I'm not a native english language speaker, I'll leave it up for other people to rewrite that sentence, if necessary. 201.78.177.185 14:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Confusing Sentence

"Lead Cleveland Police detective Peter Merylo, who along with Cleveland officials did not appreciate Sheriff O'Donnell barging into the city's long-running case, is now seen, via his memoirs, as having quietly and behind the scenes tipped the Cleveland press to discrepancies in Dolezal's coerced confessions."

This is an awkward, run-on sentence. I'd be happy to edit it myself, but I'm not sure I understand it, and I don't want to introduce a factual error. Will someone please untangle things for us? Thank you.Redshift9 18:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)