Talk:Cleisthenes

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i need some basic biographical information on Cleithenes...anyone help?

This little exchange was ages ago, but whatever. The problem with Cleisthenes is that there is no biographical information on him. Despite his monumental achievements, we know next to nothing about the man himself. --Emily 03:32, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation

I made a disambiguation article for Cleisthenes and a separate article for Cleisthenes, who lived during the Peloponnesian war. --Yannismarou 10:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] what the deuce?

'Cleisthenes (also Clisthenes or Kleisthenes) was a noble Athenian of the accursed Alcmeonidate family'

Just what exactly do you have against the Alcmeonidates? I think they good people.

Musungu jim 17:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I've removed "accursed" from the text, there's simply no reason for it. wrc_wolfbrother 16:40, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Equality of political rights

I thought twice before change of "equality under the law" to "equality of political rights". However I have two strong sources for this:

  1. Morgens Herman Hansen who is an expert on Athenian Democracy
  2. Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon

Moreover, because Herodotus & Cleisthenes use isonomia and democracy interchangeably to mean a system of the politi, and nomos has the mean custom, usage (as well as law) I am more inclined to the wider definition of "political rights" which would be "customs of the politi". I hope no one is offended by my change --Mike 13:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

As long as your consideration includes the fact that the Greek-English Lexicon you are using refers to modern Greek which would be substantially different from the ancient Greek, then I would imagine no offense is taken... Stevenmitchell 04:40, 11 April 2007 (UTC)