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[edit] Holy Trinity Episcopal Church (Melbourne, Florida)

Hi. I see that you are involved with Registered Historic Places. Do you know if the aforementioned is or isn't one? --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 03:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] An article you helped edit is now on WP:UNI/COTF

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[edit] Church of the Nazarene (disambiguation)

Do you really think this is necessary? Are you quite familiar with the Church of the Nazarene? Let's talk! Aepoutre (talk) 17:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your questions on my talk page. I trust that you did not mean them as personal attacks, although they seem to be such. Yes, I do think it is necessary and yes, I do know a lot more about the church than you seem to think that I do, but really what I know is irrelevant. This is just a disambiguation page, nothing more and nothing less. I do a lot of work on the List of National Register of Historic Places entries and the Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places. A common problem on the list is with churches of the same name.Hence the need for a place of worship disambiguation page. There are at least two Churches of the Nazarene on the National Register. Peace be to you. Luke 24:36 clariosophic (talk) 21:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for responding! No, no personal attack. What made you think it one? What is your connexion with the Church? I'm still contemplating the implications of the disambiguation, so I was curious to find out more. Take care! Aepoutre (talk) 18:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Carpenter Gothic

Hey, I noticed that you had an interest in the St. Andrew's Episcopal photo that I uploaded earlier, so I went ahead and uploaded a couple more to Wikimedia Commons that may be of interest to you: [[Image:Lowdnesborostpauls.jpg]] & [[Image:StJohnsForkland.jpg]]. I believe that both are based on Upjohn designs, but neither have an article as of yet. They are both in [[Category:Churches in Alabama]] at Commons. Cheers. Altairisfartalk 22:22, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm so happy that you liked what I uploaded. I grew up in that area. You know, excavations at Cahaba have confirmed that St. Luke's at Cahaba was identical to to St. Paul's in Lowndesboro, except that the steeple was on the left at St. Luke's instead of on the right as seen at St. Paul's. It was simplified when it was moved to Martin's Station. I used to have copies of a little booklet from ? on the Alabama Historical Commission excavations, but can't find it at the moment. I'm glad to have come across someone with the same appreciation that I have for these old buildings. Also, I have photos, (SOMEWHERE!!!!??!) of Waldwic, a Carpenter Gothic plantation house that continues to stand in Hale County, Alabama near Gallion. If I ever locate them I'll let you know if you're interested. HABS did survey it in the 1930's though, it can be found at Waldwic at HABS. Cheers.Altairisfartalk 04:56, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Waldwic

Thanks for creating the Waldwic article. I guess that now I'll have to dig out those photos! I have boxes and boxes of prints (I never got around to albums). When I locate them I'll upload and let you know. And I also wanted to let you know that I've enjoyed exploring your userpages, very interesting! Cheers. Altairisfartalk 22:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I've uploaded the HABS photos of St. Lukes & Waldwic to Commons, I'm going to go ahead and add them to their respective pages. Altairisfartalk 00:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anna Maria Island, Florida, Hutchinson Island, Florida and North Hutchinson Island, Florida

Do you classify them as islands or settlements? The former uses the bracket convention and the latter the comma (except for New Zealand). Local usage would appear to be immatereal. In some cases there is both an island an a community by the same name. Toss a coin... Peter Horn 18:12, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Anna Maria Island (Florida) would be more apropreate because there are three settlements or communities on one island. The island naming convention would override the local usage, or is Florida going to be another exception along with New Zealand??? Peter Horn 18:19, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Eureka!!! Anna Maria Island, Three (3) cities on one (1) island!! Anna Maria, Florida, the city on the north end of Anna Maria Island. Peter Horn 18:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, North Hutchinson Island is a settlement without question. Yes, Anna Maria Island has three municipalities on it, but it is really one settlement. Except for city or town limits signs, you can't tell where one ends and the other begins. There have been efforts since the 1950's to consolidate. Hutchinson Island also is really one large settlement despite being in two counties, Anyway, I've already deleted the Florida from North Hutchinson Island, but will have to ask an administrator to delete it from the other two. clariosophic (talk) 19:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
May be you could look at all of List of islands of the United States#Florida? Peter Horn 00:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, but I already have looked at it many times and I don't see that it proves anything. As I said above, each of the three can stand on its own without Florida because there is no other island of the same name. Then we won't have to worry about whether Florida should be in parentheses or with a comma. Anyway it seems problematic that that Anna Maria Island and Hutchinson Island are really settlements since one contains 3 cities while the other contains part of one city and a whole CDP plus other unincorporated areas. Best wishes.clariosophic (talk) 08:33, 16 January 2008 (UTC) clariosophic (talk) 09:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Any further discussion of this belongs on Talk:Anna Maria Island, Florida and Talk:Hutchinson Island, Florida, each of which has a place to discuss its proposed move. clariosophic (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
For obvious reasons I changed Orchid Island to Orchid Island in List of islands of the United States#Florida. Peter Horn 23:48, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Carers

Also what choice does a loving adult child have when his or her siblings either refuse or are unable to assume the role of caregiver for their parent or parents? clariosophic (talk) 12:59, 17 January 2008 (UTC) Yes, thats the whole point - welcome to the carers movement ...call us what you will - you know I had never heard of the "caregiver" word on this side of the pond either. ;-) ! funnily enough, this here fellow carer has also been editing articles on islands, see my new one strangeway - maybe carers need islands to go hide away on.... xxxx Excalibur (talk) 01:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chautauqua Institution Historic District

Hi, got your message. I don't have personal knowledge of the Chautauqua Institution and what it is called there, as you clearly do. What i was doing was ensuring consistency between the NHL program names of sites and what appears in the NHL/NRHP infoboxes, for the New York State NHLs. I am trying to clean up all the NYS NHL articles, hoping to bring the List up for nomination to Featured List status.

There are frequently differences between the NRHP names for sites (as reported from nris by Elkman's infobox generator), vs. the NHL program names for sites (as given in individual NHL webpages linked in articles, which is usually the same as the NHL name in the NPS PDF listing of all the NHL sites, linked at bottom of List of National Historic Landmarks in New York). And often current common names for sites are different than when the NHL was declared. I have consistently gone to the NHL name for sites, for use in the NRHP infoboxes, to reflect NHL program usage, at times over-riding the NRHP name. Right now, the NHL name for the site in both NHL sources is "Chautauqua Historic District", and I think that it is fair to represent that that is the NHL name for the site, by showing it in the infobox and as an alternate name (used by some, the NHL people) in the text.

I think you have a problem with the NHL program not with me really, and I am actually sympathetic about that. I see that the "Chautauqua Institution Historic District" name was used in the NRHP registration document linked in the article. Perhaps the NHL program should have used that. I have accumulated a list of other problems with the NHL webpage and/or NHL PDF document names for sites, including some obvious typos, and am corresponding with the NPS, about their fixing/changing those. So far with some acknowledgement from them that there exist seeming typos, but with no actual changes made by them yet.

I wonder, do you want to document that Chautauqua Institution Historic District is the common name or that it should be the NHL name, for correspondence with the NPS? I would be happy to work with you on that. And, if you wanted to footnote or otherwise indicate in the text that the NHL program and/or other outsiders are using an incorrect name, that would be fine. However I would appreciate being able to keep Chautauqua Historic District listed as the NHL name for the place in the NHL/NRHP infobox. This is consistent with all other NYS NHL names in the List article and in the NHL/NRHP infoboxes of all the site articles, I believe.

By the way, the only in-line citations in the article are the NRHP docs that I put in. It seems the referencing of most of the article could be improved.

Does this help? I worry maybe i wrote too much. Sincerely, doncram (talk) 12:29, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Carpenter Gothic

Hey there Clariosophic. You seem to take some interest in the Carpenter Gothic article. I am curious to your thinking on your picture editing on the article. The first image is tilted and has telephone or electric cable running through it. The third image, being brick, is stylistically related but atypical of the style. The American Gothic House is both prototypical and quintessential. I will also post this on the article Carpenter Gothic discussion page, which is probably where the discussion should unfold. Thanks. CApitol3 (talk) 16:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review on List of National Historic Landmarks in New York

Hi Clariosophic -- Your input is invited.  :) I've gone ahead and asked for peer review on the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York list, including the List of National Historic Landmarks in New York City (hopefully to be considered by the peer reviewers as well). Open at Wikipedia:Peer review#List of National Historic Landmarks in New York. doncram (talk) 23:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)