Talk:Clara Bow

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Contents 1 date of birth? 2 The Budd Schulburg quote 3 IMDB Biography as reference 4 Fleet's In book 5 Football team?

[edit] date of birth?

Can anyone confirm her date of birth? Her death certificate says 1907,but IMDb says 1905. --Jeremy Butler 11:20, 24 June 2006 (UTC) her was born oct 2

The 1910 census says she is 4, 1920 says age 14 (born 1905). 1930 Census says 23.[1]

So in 1910, she is born in 1906 ; in 1920, she is born in 1906 (according to you, 1905) and in 1930, she is born in 1907? Which year is it? Hotwine8 03:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

The census forms aren't filled out on the same date each time around. It could be that in 1910 and 1920, the forms were filled out in August (after her birthdate), but in 1930, they were filled out in June (before her birthdate. Thus, 4, 14, and 23, but still born in 1906. (There's no mathematical way that anyone born in 1905 could have been 14 at any time in 1920 studerby 21:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Yet the article still has 1905 as her year of birth. Hotwine8 22:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Her date of birth was probably 1907. She gave 1905 as Her date of birth in the 1920’s for the same reason that teenagers today lie about their age. She wanted to be able to work. She wanted to be considered, legally, an adult.

[edit] The Budd Schulburg quote

Schulberg's "Low Life" quote about Clara Bow has to be taken with a considerable amount of salt. I've read Moving Pictures and get the feeling that Schulberg was a snob, stressing the flaws of others to make himself look bigger, and finally showing that he was better, more creative and had risen farther than his father, Budd Schulberg Sr. --Saxophobia 01:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] IMDB Biography as reference

For the sake of reliability, I think the items referencing the IMDB Bio should be replaced with more substantial sources, such as Basigner's Silent Stars or other such sources. The only reason I think the IMDB Bio is not the most reliable source is that their method of verifying the data that goes up on their site is probably not as rigorous as others.
—Asatruer 23:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

I concur. I took them out. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fleet's In book

If anyone can provide more info on the Fleet's In book Bow wrote the introduction for, please add it ASAP as the anti-image police are about to claim another victim. 23skidoo 21:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Considering that fair use images should be used sparingly and with strong justification as per Wikipedia's policies, it seems to me that adding an image with a rationale that states in part that it can be used for a future article about the book, along with a very brief mention (rather than discussion) in the Clara Bow article, is putting the cart before the horse. It's a superb image and one that would be fairly rare, I would think, but it looks like the aim has been to add the image and then tailor the text accordingly so that it fits, and this is not in the spirit of fair use, which allows for genuine uses (ie the image of Bow herself seems to have been accepted as fair use). Every time fair use is stretched beyond our definition, it puts all other examples of fair use into jeopardy. It's also unfortunate that you are using wording such as "anti-image police" claiming "another victim" to describe other editors who are acting in line with our policies. If the fair use is genuine and compelling it should be easy to establish. You seem to be confirming how slim the fair use claim really is. Rossrs 01:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Football team?

It seems like this false rumor should be dealt with on this page. Many people, like myself, have heard the rumor and came to wikipedia to see if there was any information on it.

Snopes has a good page, that could be used as a reference.

http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/clarabow.asp

MightyAtom (talk) 06:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)