Talk:CKY (band)

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[edit] Update 11/06/07

Deron Miller was kicked out of the band at their St. Louis show a month ago. CKY is now a 3 piece band...

According to the ask cKy section of www.ckyalliance.com, Chad has 2 broken ribs and a broken toe from falling on speakers on the Viva La Bands tour and have canceled all upcoming shows

[edit] Updates

I just went through and updated some of the information. The Australian tour happened a while back now, so no mention of it being "recent" was necessary. I combined the two small lines about touring and edited them to be more up-to-date.

The band has not confirmed nor hinted that the next album will be out in 2007, and as work on it has not yet started that timeframe is highly unlikely. I edited the part referring to the next album to better match the concrete information available.

CKY signed with Roadrunner Records http://www.ckyalliance.com/news/detail.cfm?newsID=362 and has stated there will be new music in 2007. 24.53.135.65 19:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My editing

I got rid of that CKY box at the bottom because it mentions the CKY videos, which have little or nothing to do with the band these days, and is an inslult to real CKY fans i.e. people who like the band for more than their connection to that idiot, Bam Margera. I don't mind the section of that box to do with the band, but despise the rest, so if you could perhaps have it so that it gets rid of all that childish nonsense about the 'CKY crew'? Because I never heard of Don Vito playing bass on a CKY song, or Rake Yohn writing a Foreign Objects song.

You know I'm right. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Space Rodeo (talkcontribs) 02:36, 4 December 2006 (UTC).

The template covers the band, their music, the video series and various other aspects of CKY. Whatever your opinion of Bam or the videos, they are inextricably linked. Please don't remove this template again as removing legitimate content from Wikipedia is vandalism. Deizio talk 11:51, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aw, man

Dude, you're giving people the wrong idea about CKY. Have you seen CKY live? I have, and there wasn't a stunt or a goddamn skateboard in sight. Will I set up a poll on the Alliance? I don't mind having a CKY template, but make a separate one for the band. Please.

It's not about CKY live and skateboarding, nor is it a content issue. If you're a big fan you're well aware of the relationship between the band, Bam and the CKY videos. You can go all the way to AskCKY if you like, doesn't change the validity of the template. Deizio talk 17:14, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ask CKY

Don't be afraid to include AskCKY pages as a cited reference, it's a great resource because it's written by the band. Much better than myspace or a forum. Deizio talk 17:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Edits 1/14/07

Changed Matt's band assignment to simply "bass" as the band considers him their full-time bassist and he will be performing on the next album.

Labels fixed. CKY did not sign to Island records in 1999, they signed in 2001. CKY were signed to Volcom Entertainment from 1999-2001.

Removed "Past Members" as none of the members in question had ever contributed to the albums. Andy Smith was never a member of CKY, he was one of many bassists in Pre-CKY project "Foreign Objects".

Removed the info at the end of "Later Career" regarding the last Euro tour and the "small string of dates" in December. The European Tour was months ago, and the December shows have already occured. New year, no need for that info.

Removed link to www.campkillyourself.net. This is not an official website, it is a fansite, and it has not been updated in well over a year.

I put back the link to CKY's MySpace. I see that it was removed as per wiki's rules on linking to MySpace, but had Deiz bothered to read the exact rule, it states that MySpace linking should be avoided "Except for a link to a page that is the subject of the article or an official page of the article subject". MySpace.com/CKY is CKY's official, BAND RUN MySpace page, and is considered the secondary source of information by the band after CKYAlliance.com. CKY Guy 04:51, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Well thanks. In addition to launching the CKY wikiproject, I'm also a member of the external links project and a contributor to the guideline, so let me point out a couple of things. a) It's a guideline, not a policy or "rule". b) there is constant flux on that page, particularly regarding myspace, youtube etc. so the version you're looking at right now cannot be considered gospel, and c) the CKY (band) page attracts all kinds of vandalism, misinformation and nonsense, so if on one of my many reversions, updates, repairs and fixes I dared to remove a myspace link then I guess you can shoot me. If you stick around a while, you'll get a better feel for the way policies and guidelines evolve, and about interacting with other editors. In the meantime, calm yourself down and join up at WP:CKY. Deizio talk 07:17, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merged

Merged the OiL page into the CKY one. PaddyBoii 14:48, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edits 3/5/07

1. Andy Smith was NEVER a member of CKY, only pre-CKY projects. As this is a page about CKY, his listing as a "Past Member" is erroneous.

2. Ask CKY should be written as such, two words. This is how it is written throughout the rest of the article, but for whatever reason one instance of it continues to be reverted to "ASKCKY".

3. CKYForums.com is NOT an official CKY website, and therefore it should never take presedence over CKYAlliance.com or any of the official band member websites or MySpace page. I don't feel it has any place in the links section at ALL, being that they hardly ever discuss the band on those forums. If a forum must be placed in the links section, it should be the official CKY forums at CKYAlliance.com

For whatever reason these 3 edits were reverted although they were all valid edits.

CKYGuy 20:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Minor, unexplained edits by new users get reverted all the time, usually back to a "safe" version of the page. Join up at WP:CKY. Deiz talk 01:16, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup

I've pre-emptively cleaned up the article in the light of greater crackdowns on unsourced material. Please don't add / readd anything without sourcing it first. A few points:

  • It's inappropriate to link to a list of youtube hosted videos without specific evidence there are no copyright issues involved.
  • Quotes should be summarized and linked to unless citations from reliable independent sources prove their importance.
  • Articles should generally be written in a formal tone, watch out for phrases like "They were ready to record...", "..had become superstars in the skateboarding world...".
  • What does ""Guinnessburg" record mean? If they have a world record it requires citation.

Any other questions about this, just ask.. Deiz talk 09:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "OIL"

ok i had a whole lot of info on the pre cky project, oil.but deiz deleted it thinking it is not neccesary. so im putting this topic up for dicussion so i can redo the whole oil project. it is a significant piece of cky history as the band oil is cky, the only difference is the change of name. all cky songs from volume 1 are oil songs except disengage the simulator which is foreign objects.

does everyone think i should make the page again with the info on all their releases?

thanks

  • Ryan, Wikipedia is not the place to write everything you know about your favourite "before they were famous" garage band. Either source your edits (WP:ATT) or they will continue to be reverted and you'll be blocked for disruption. As you may be aware, many of the articles you created were deleted and protected to prevent recreation. If you start creating articles using alternative titles to get around this you'll be blocked. Nobody is denying Oil existed, just that they were a largely unknown band, who later became famous as CKY. The Foreign Objects article is unsourced and doesn't really assert notability either. A quick mention of Oil in the CKY article is enough. As soon as sources that satisfy :ATT are provided, I'll help you write the article myself. Deiz talk 13:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre

I fail to see how CKY can be considered "experimental" music. Ocatecir Talk 18:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


  • If you'll kindly check the band-run official CKY MySpace page, www.myspace.com/cky, you'll see that they classify themselves as "Rock/Experimental/Other". Even if you can't accept the "Experimental" tag, you can not possibly argue to me that they are not a Rock band. CKY is extremely far from being considered "metalcore", and even labelling them "Alternative Metal" is a stretch. I don't see your argument here. CKYGuy 18:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tmi/distant

should we include TMI/Distant on the label part of the cky page? they recorded their first cd on it and it was distributed by themRy90 04:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

source? Ocatecir Talk 04:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  • www.inhifi.com

in the albums section, and the cds also say they are from tmi/distant.

  • TMI/Distant are the local company that they recorded with, so i think it should be included. They were only on the label for the most part of Early 1999. Do i go ahead and add it? Ry90 06:52, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
  • I'd be up for having it in the infobox, unlinked. Deiz talk 05:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
^ I agree. Adding... Ocatecir Talk 06:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cky.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:1151476272 gozCKyLogo.jpg

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[edit] andy smith

Resolved.

andy smith was never a member of cky, he should be removed from the past members list--Ry90 07:00, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Removed. OcatecirT 07:14, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cky videography

im going to make a cky videography about the videos, just passing it by everyone. Ry90 10:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Will this be a section or a separate article? Can you point to an existing section or article on another band that you are aiming to emulate? Deiz talk 10:29, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] live dvd/cd

should we add the new live dvd/cd to the discography section?

its not an official release, only because the band isnt allowed to release it through a label due to the copyright issues with island, so it has surfaced as a bootleg.

but it is the show they had planned for release on a live album. --Ry90 11:12, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deron Miller's Departure

According to the latest Q & A, Deron Miller has left CKY, Anyone can put it up, i can't do this formatting crap. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.129.137.188 (talk) 16:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

  • He hasnt left cky. nothing will be added until everything between the band has cleared up and we know for sure what is going on--Ry90 10:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wot no Chinese Freestyle ?

Why can i find no mention of the song "Bran's Chinese Freestyle" or indeed Bran himself anywhere on wikipedia ? Machete97 (talk) 19:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)