Template talk:Cite science
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[edit] Documentation
[edit] Purpose
To provide a citation similar to {{cite journal}}, that also provides a URL to a news article (if such journal/news pair exist), and an abstract.
[edit] Usage
| using first, last | using author |
|---|---|
{{cite science
| last =
| first =
| authorlink =
| coauthors =
| year =
| month =
| title = REQUIRED
| journal =
| volume =
| issue =
| pages =
| doi =
| id =
| url =
| format =
| news =
| abstract =
}}
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{{cite science
| author =
| year =
| month =
| title = '''REQUIRED'''
| journal =
| volume =
| issue =
| pages =
| doi =
| id =
| url =
| format =
| news =
| abstract =
}}
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- author: Author
- last works with first to produce
last, first - authorlink works either with author or with last & first to link to the appropriate article (internal link)
- coauthors: allows additional authors
- last works with first to produce
- date: January 1, 2006. Full date of publication.
- year: 2006. Year of publication (ignored if the date field is used).
- month: January. Month of publication (ignored if the date field is used, or if the year field is not used).
- year: 2006. Year of publication (ignored if the date field is used).
- title: Title of article. This is the only required parameter. All other parameters are optional.
- journal: Name of the journal.
- volume: Volume number of the journal in which the article is found
- issue: Issue number of the journal in which the article is found
- pages: 45–47: first page, and optional last page.
- doi: digital object identifier. See also {{doi}}
- id: Identifier such as {{ISSN|1111-2220}}
- url: URL of a copy of the article, if available online.
- format: Format, i.e. PDF. Don't specify for HTML (implied as default).
- news: URL of a news article reporting the findings in more accessible language.
- abstract: URL of an abstract of the article (e.g. on pubmed) if the article link is subscribers-only.
[edit] Discussion
- See also talk at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Unreferenced GA#New template proposed
[edit] Capitals or not
The intention is not to anticipate which fields will actually be used; it is hoped that all three will be used, in which case, capitalisation would be out of place; for consistency, I suggest we do not capitalise the first instance, either (it's not obvious why, but think about it for a minute and you may see that it makes sense). - Samsara (talk • contribs) 11:46, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Obsolete?
Now that {{cite journal}} has laysummary (laysource, laydate) and accessdate, I suggest we phase out this template. Adoniscik (talk) 15:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Why on earth is no parameter for a retrieval date if there are parameters in which to insert URLs?--Rmky87 22:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
- I guess a journal article is regarded as sufficiently fixed so that any retrieval date makes little sense. The url field might point to, e.g., the publisher's PDF version, which will very rarely change. -- fnielsen 14:57, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
- But what about the accompanying news article? Those really need retrieval dates.--Rmky87 01:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Why? Samsara (talk • contribs) 12:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Go ask the people who made {{cite news}}. For some reason, they think it's pretty important, probably for the same reason that the people who made {{cite web}} think it's pretty important: because the Wayback Machine needs to know when it was accessed. Websites can change their format such that desired pages may be under different URLs. I'm not sure if news sites ever do this, though.--Rmky87 21:22, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't see the 'news' field at first. I guess a news item might better be handled with a separate entry? Something like: <ref>{{Cite journal|title = A scientific paper}} *{{Cite news|title = News about scientific paper}}</ref> -- fnielsen 14:10, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Since people are obviously finding it hard to read, let me spell it out for you: this template is designed for those LUCKY CASES where BOTH a journal paper and an accompanying news item are available, so that the reader can pick the level of detail/jargon that they feel comfortable with. Is that plenty intelligible? Cheers, Samsara (talk • contribs) 15:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Actually, I understood that part completely.--Rmky87 22:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- I suppose an 'accessdate' would not hurt. Anyway: what I meant with with "a separate entry" is displayed at the button of my user page: User:Fnielsen#Reference. I suppose accompanying articles can both be another 'cite journal' (e.g., an article up front in Science referring to an original research article in another part of the issue) as well as 'cite news' (in a newspaper) or 'cite web'. -- fnielsen 16:29, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Since people are obviously finding it hard to read, let me spell it out for you: this template is designed for those LUCKY CASES where BOTH a journal paper and an accompanying news item are available, so that the reader can pick the level of detail/jargon that they feel comfortable with. Is that plenty intelligible? Cheers, Samsara (talk • contribs) 15:26, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
- Why? Samsara (talk • contribs) 12:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- But what about the accompanying news article? Those really need retrieval dates.--Rmky87 01:57, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
What is this for? Merge with {{cite journal}}? — Omegatron 02:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

