Template talk:Cite conference

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[edit] Format param

I tried (in sandbox) to add a format parameter to go with URL (e.g., to warn of pdf files), as exists on Template:Cite web, Template:Cite journal et. al. I am completely out of my depth, and managed to produce nothing but mangled templates. Anyone with better template-fu feel up to it? Consider this a sandardization request. --KGF0 ( T | C ) 05:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Give it a test run now. Circeus 18:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Looks like it works now, thanks. I'm going to fix the documentation to reflect that (and to remove the subst someone added to Usage on the main page - subst'ing citation templates will produce nightmarish results when templates change, like now, since the changes won't get picked up.) --KGF0 ( T | C ) 05:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Examples

Please give some real life examples to make obvious the difference between the conference and booktitle parameters. Are we really supposed to say "conference=International Conference of Scientists | booktitle = Proceedings of the International Conference of Scientists"? — Omegatron 17:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed, it's very silly. I especially dislike that you have to use conference to get conferenceurl. — Laura Scudder ☎ 21:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I asked the person who added it. See User_talk:Omegatron#re:_Cite_conference for their response. — Omegatron 22:50, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
I had to do a bit of digging to find that: User_talk:Omegatron/Archive/September,_2007#re:_Cite_conference. What is the protocol for updating these templates? --Adoniscik (talk) 22:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Typo

{{editprotected}} It's nitpicky, but in the line editor: No text is added, so labels such as "(ed.)" has to be supplied by user, "has" should be "have". Any chance someone could fix that while giving the examples requested above? -Bbik★ 14:22, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Do it yourself. That part of the page is transcluded and not protected.

[edit] booktitle

Why is booktitle compulsory? this paper was given at a conference which has not been printed in book form. I have to use {{cite web}} or {{cite paper}} instead of {{cite conference}} Boo! jnestorius(talk) 21:21, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Same here! It's "conference" that should be mandatory, not booktitle. Organizations are increasingly releasing their publications online, so there are no formal proceedings... Same goes for the location parameter. That should be for the conference, not the proceedings. --Adoniscik (talk) 22:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Booktitle made optional. David Ruben Talk 02:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quote

{{editprotected}} Please can we have a "quote" (distinct from "quotes") field like in {{cite journal}} --Adoniscik(t, c) 00:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

What needs to be added, and where? Happy‑melon 10:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Very easy! Just squeeze this in at the end:

.{{#if:{{{quote|}}}
  |  “{{{quote}}}”
}}

The period (full stop) at the beginning is intentional. --Adoniscik(t, c) 19:45, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Y Done I used straight quotes per the manual of style. Happy‑melon 08:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DOI capitalization

I notice that DOI is capitalized in cite conference, but not in {{cite journal}}. Is there a good reason for this? If not, one should be changed to look like the other. (I don't care which.) e. g.:

  • {{subst:cite conference|author=William F. Bottke |title=The origin and evolution of stony meteorites|conference=Dynamics of Populations of Planetary Systems|booktitle=Proceedings of the International Astronomical Union|volume=197|pages=357–374|year=2005|doi=10.1017/S1743921304008865 }} produces
William F. Bottke (2005). "The origin and evolution of stony meteorites" in Dynamics of Populations of Planetary Systems. Proceedings of the International Astronomical Union 197: 357–374. DOI:10.1017/S1743921304008865. 
  • {{subst:cite journal| year=2004|author= J. Jeff Hester| title= The Cradle of the Solar System|journal=Science| date=[[21 May]] [[2004]] | pages= 1116–1117 | volume=304 | doi=10.1126/science.1096808}} produces
J. Jeff Hester (21 May 2004). "The Cradle of the Solar System". Science 304: 1116–1117. doi:10.1126/science.1096808. 

ASHill (talk | contribs) 16:29, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Changed to "doi" in line with {{cite journal}} and {{DOI}}. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 16:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Retrieval dates for online versions of old printed sources, again

Please contribute to this discussion at Citing sources: Wikipedia talk:Citing sources#Retrieval dates for online versions of old printed sources, again --EnOreg (talk) 16:17, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Consensus: We have a consensus that access dates for online copies of offline sources, while helpful as a comment in the source, should be hidden from the reader. Could somebody who is competent to adapt the citation templates please do so? The idea is to keep the access date as a template parameter but remove the code that displays it. Thanks, --EnOreg (talk) 09:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC) {{editprotected}} All it takes is to comment out these two lines:

 }}{{#if: {{{accessdate|}}}
   |. Retrieved on [[{{{accessdate}}}]].

--EnOreg (talk) 11:30, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I've wrapped the "retrieved on..." in CSS, like the other cite templates with this request. See the centralised discussion linked above. Happy‑melon 18:02, 8 June 2008 (UTC)