Talk:Chronological snobbery
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[edit] Name for the opposite fallacy?
What do you call it when someone assumes that older things are better? Does that fallacy have a name of its own? I ask only because it seems to be more common than the subject of this article but that is just a guess on my part. Boris B 07:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe "appeal to tradition"? David Bergan 04:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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- What if it isn't things that are done now, but in some forgotten Golden Age? Like the way in fantasy books, all the best weapons and armor were forged in the distant past, when everyone was good and noble and the world should try and get back to that... Thanos6 06:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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- That would be Romanticism. (I'd know, since I am one.) :) Jrbaker (talk) 21:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Wikipedia-worthy?
Does this page even belong on Wikipedia? The only person cited in the article who uses the term is C.S. Lewis, both times from the same book, so it doesn't strike me as having particular scholarly or cultural currency. The other quotation does not use the term, is not even strictly the same idea, and links to two articles which do not exist. Can anyone find more sources for this topic? If not, this strikes me more as C.S. Lewis fandom that doesn't belong on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.65.164 (talk) 05:05, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Apparently anonymous didn't notice the references to Owen Barfield and G. B. Tennyson in the article...
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- The Tennyson reference is the one to which I am referring as the "other quotation." See the above criticism. I also question whether the mention of Barfield is enough to satisfy notability requirements, as the reference is only in collaboration with Lewis, according to the article; Barfield was also apparently a friend of Lewis, which I think disqualifies him as satisfying the "significant coverage" aspect of notability. My criticisms still stand, I believe. Regardless, this article would definitely benefit from more diverse and numerous sources. Without them, its notability is certainly questionable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.65.164 (talk) 17:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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- So... we should just make a hodge-podge list of every time the term Chronological Snobbery was mentioned in a book or webpage? Here's what I could find in 1 minute with Google:
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- http://www.chronologicalsnobbery.com/
- http://www.americanvision.org/articlearchive/10-11-04.asp - In regards to Christopher Columbus
- http://members.aol.com/BaxterInstitute/Snobbery.html - "Reverse Chronological Snobbery"
- http://basketbawful.blogspot.com/2006/07/word-of-day-chronological-snobbery.html - used in reference to the NBA
- http://schlafly.blogspot.com/2006/09/chronological-snobbery.html
- http://www.questioningchristian.com/2005/02/chronological_s.html - vs Ancestor Worship
- http://www.tektonics.org/guest/chronsnob.html
- http://dangerousidea.blogspot.com/2006/01/bultmanns-blatant-chronological_30.html - Applied to Rudolf Bultmann
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- I'm pretty busy today, so I'll let you incorporate these into the article in an encyclopedic manner. But this quick list should make it sufficiently clear that the term Chronological Snobbery has seeped into our culture and is applied in many different contexts (even though it may not yet be mainstream... but wikipedia is certainly not constrained to only mainstream ideas). David Bergan (talk) 17:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
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- I've by run this term many times in my reading, but the ones in the article are notable because they show its genesis. David Bergan (talk) 18:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

