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This article was nominated for deletion on 4 June 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
Good - I found this page useful today. Dunxd 11:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 21st Century "Christian Values"
I don't believe the authors of this article accurately represent the 21st century idea of Christian Values.
The desirability of laws against birth control The desirability of laws against same-sex marriage and support for discrimination against homosexuals The desirability of reinstating faculty-led prayer at taxpayer-funded schools
There is an element of truth to these, but none of them are correct. I believe the Christian Values regarding birth control are more heavily levied by the Catholic church, which is not a blanket organization for the expression of Christian Values.
Most political conservatives would identify the desirability of laws against same-sex marriage as a Christian Value, but not discrimination against homosexuals - this is a very critical and ill-worded trait that shows bias in the author.
Likewise, another misleading word choice is the last Value that Christians desire faculty-led prayer. This is not a part of any of the prayer-in-school agendas. The desire is for the allowance of prayer in public schools by students, not the insistence that these prayers be faculty-led. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 157.142.134.213 (talk) 17:35, 6 January 2007 (UTC).
Those who use the phrase "Christian values" or, more often, "Family values" favor discrimination against homosexuals in marriage, adoption, taxation, teaching, and scouting. They do not favor discrimination in voting. You may want to rewrite the section to make clear the kinds of discrimination favored.
On the other hand, the prayer in the public schools agenda is entirely focused on teacher led public prayer. There is not, nor ever has been, any law against students spontaneously praying (provided such prayer does not disrupt classes). The ACLU has defended the right of students to pray in several cases where principals misunderstood the rule against teacher led public prayer. The right of students to pray has never been in dispute, though a number of conservative talk show hosts are pleased to pretend that this right is threatened. Rick Norwood 13:20, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
These "thou shalts" are silly... there is an NIV... shouldn't we consult it... i believe it is the undisputed champion of bibles. These quotations should be taken from a more readable source as to facilitate understanding of a very ambiguous (seldom understood) but commonly claimed life stance: "The follower of the Christ" Signed --t stein
