Talk:Chord notation

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Sorry I need to complete the article... I intend to when I get the chance.Dndn1011 12:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Compound chords

The article needs to say something about these. Ben Finn 22:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

The article needs to clarify in the title that it refers to Pop chord notation (as opposed to figured bass or Classical roman numeral notation)Drabauer 07:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Omitted Notes

The last line of the article, under Added Chords, says to see omitted notes. There was a typo which is now corrected. But where is this section on omitted notes? It is not a reference to an article, nor is there a section in this article called Omitted Notes. So this appears to be a reference to a section or article which does not exist.--65.190.103.147 05:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Augmented 11 Chords

Please correct the 11ths section regarding Augmented 11th Chords. It is incorrect.

Augmented in a chord name normally applies to the sharped (augmented) 5th chord tone. EXCEPTION: the AUGMENTED ELEVENTH chord is a regular 11th chord, but the 11th is sharped.

C+11 = 1 3 (5) 7 (9) #11 C E (G) Bb (D) F#

Notes in parentheses are usually omitted.

144.139.97.4 03:17, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. The correct way to shorthand notate the chord you are referring to would be C7(#11), and it's correct (music theory) name would be C Major-Minor 7 Augmented 11.

[edit] Chord_notation#Complexities Language

There are an almost infinite number of chords possible is nonsense and ungrammatical. The number of possible chords may be described as very large, but almost infinite doesn't make any sense for any finite number. Then there's the discordance between subject and verb: a number is possible, not are.

I suggest to re-write the first sentence; here's my attempt: The number of possible chords is very large, but only a few, most of which are described below, are found in musical practice. Alternatively, the whole sentence may be omitted. Michael Bednarek 03:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diminished 2nd

Would a d2 up (diminished 2nd) be the same notes?Bdodo1992 20:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MAJOR 11th?

Ok, whoever wrote this article hasn't the slightest clue of what an interval is.

Check your own knowledge before making stupid claims like that one. A Major 11 is a an 11th chord with a major 7 instead of a dominant 7, which you would have understood if you had studied the article! Also it is possible to add a 4th interval to a major or minor triad, although this is not commonly done. It would be an added 4 (e.g. C4, Cm4 or C add11, Cm add11) 83.190.160.233 (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The 11th is the same thing as a 4th, and thus, cannot be major or minor. It is either perfect (2½ steps), or augmented (3 steps) or diminished (2 steps). Zelani (talk) 16:03, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

The 'major', 'minor' etc in the names of the 11th chords refer to the chords as a whole, not just the 11th as an interval. For example the major 11th has CE... and the majorminor 11th has CE♭... And, by the way, an 11th isn't 'the same thing as a 4th' - it's a 4th plus an octave. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 00:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Actually it is not necessary for it to be plus an octave: You can voice an 11th chord with the 11 within the same octave. Guitarists are often forced to do this because of the difficulty of finding better voicing. The point is that the naming refers to the function of the note in the chord, and not just the interval. Regardless of the octave, a 4th refers to the 'interaction' between the 4th interval and the root; an 11th refers to the interaction between the 4th and the 7th. At least you can think of it that way. 81.68.92.34 (talk) 10:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I agree with you about the voicing - my point was just that as an interval an 11th is not the same as a 4th. AndrewWTaylor (talk) 19:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Almost Infinite

'There are an almost infinite number of chords' That makes no sense at all, there's no such thing as 'almost infinite'. There is either is an infinite number of chords or there isn't (in which case it is finite). Someone please replace that which a more logical sentence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.57.158 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 13 May 2008