Talk:Chondrus crispus

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[edit] Merge with carrageenan

It was suggested that the Chondrus page should be merged with the carrageenan page. I disagree, the major sources of carrageenan are tropical seaweeds of the genera Kappaphycus and Eucheuma and not Chondrus thus the two topics should stay separate.Chondrus (talk) 13:58, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. They are not synonymous subjects. No other comments since insertion, so I'll pull the merge tag. ENeville (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I was very surprised to find this wikipedia entry for "Irish moss" because as a gardener, I have only seen this used as the common name for sagina subulata, also called 'Pearlwort', 'Heath Pearlwort', or even 'corsican pearlwort'. I had no idea it referred to a seaweed... I'm not experienced enough at editing to know whether this should be mentioned here, or if we need to introduce a disambiguation page. And I'm sure I don't know the easiest way to insert a disambiguation page! There is no page for Sagina or Sagina Subulata yet either... Spike0xFF 20:08, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Pffft. Definitely needs a disambiguation page - Irish moss is also a well-known 'stitch' or knitting pattern. Spike0xFF 20:15, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Irish moss is now a disambiguation page, and Sagina subulata has been created. ENeville (talk) 01:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Should Irish moss be in Category:Sea vegetables? Is it eaten directly? — Pekinensis 01:23, 6 May 2005 (UTC)ASDADA I LIKE EGGS I'm not sure. No it is not eaten directly - only an extract is consumed (I think) or used somehow. How do you determine and sort out these "Categories" please? I'm new to this point.--Osborne 09:02, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Distribution

Distribution to be written up - when time! part of the first chapter can be moved. Osborne 16:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC) How's that? AlgaeBase gives more countries - but I don't think it is the same speces. Osborne 15:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC) It is not found in the Pacific ref [1]and is not included in Abbott & Hollenberg's Marine Algae of California. Of course California does not have all species found in the Pacific.Osborne 09:04, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

According to M.Guiry in Algaebase it is recorded from Pacific America as Iridaea heterocarpa - however that species in Abbott and Hollenberg looks nothing like the alga I know as Chrondus crispus!Osborne 10:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC). [2]

M.Guiry agrees, The Iridaea referred to is another species:- "The type from Kamchatka was sequenced by the authors. The Iridaea illustrated by Abbott & Hollenberg is another species." I doubt the other records including Oregon also. Will have to research Alaska. Chondrus crispus is not noted in the only Japanese books I have (see Algaebase).Osborne 11:29, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What are the adaptations

Insert non-formatted text here What are adaptations of Irish Moss to its surroundings? How it eats would be nice.

Osborne 23:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)==Common Names or Botaical names== I think the algae should all be detailed under their Botanical name, as others are. They should also be cross referenced with their common name. If this is agreed then this page should be renamed "Chondrus crispus". However further - most algae are noted under their generic name, perhaps this spcies should be too. I am too cautious to make such changes. Any help????Osborne 10:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC). Example: Mastocarpus stellatus is entioned under the botanical name. There may be other examples!!{helpme}Osborne 10:55, 4 October 2007 (UTC) "Dabberlocks" (common name) and "Alaria esculenta" (botanical name) are listed separately. "Alaria" is a genus and is an article itself. Same problem. Osborne 11:32, 4 October 2007 (UTC) Further. As a botanist I know many algae, not to mention mosses, liverworts etc do not have common names, the botanical name should be used. All those written under common names should be amalgamated, or at least cross-referened. The botanical write-up should be the primary one! According to one reference all the British Isles grasses have a "common" names - but I bet these are rarely used or known! There are also Rushes and Sedges. Of course there are the foreign grasses also. Advice please.Osborne 15:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I have now moved it to Chondrus crispus.Osborne 20:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, but why "Stackhouse" in the article title? am I missing something, or should it just be "Chondrus crispus"? --Storkk 11:17, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

"Stackhouse" is a part of the name! - it is the guy who proposed the name, the "authority" and in biolgical nomenclature the authority is associated with the name. The authority is not shown in italics however.Osborne 23:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. Someone else moved the page, but I removed Stackhouse from the first line of the article. See Canis Lupus, it's not "Canis Lupus Linnaeus". Scientific taxonomies, AFAIK are almost never given with their namer's names. I think the sidebar, like for wolf, is where that belongs. Let me know if you disagree. Cheers!--Storkk 16:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)