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The article states: Non-violent child discipline has grown in popularity, but continues to be controversial for practical, moral, religious and legal reasons.. I am trying but failing how non-violent child discpline can be controversial for moral, religous and legal reasons. Please explain. Those reasons removed. Przepla 20:36, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Easy enough:

  • practical -- there may be other children that need care; time-intensive discipline for one child results in neglect of the other children
  • moral -- so-called "non-violent" child discipline may only substitute emotional (psychological) abuse
  • religous -- the Bible says you must spank
  • legal -- parents may be held responsible for failure to control a child

AlbertCahalan 04:50, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Good points. MARussellPESE 22:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christain bias

This article appears very skewed towards christianity. It consists almost entirely of bible quotes. I will remove some of them, if any one thinks they can do a better job of clearing it up, feel free to change it back. I am just going to try and clean it up a little bit. Dolive21 18:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, but the Christian perspective is robust and deserves attention. We should try to tighten it up and expand around it. MARussellPESE 22:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I didn't notice a bias, although I definitely see room for additional information on Religious Perspective. Believe it or not, I am really glad this article looks like it does. Take it from a nanny, these articles are important. --Spesek 18:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New sections

Added new sections just now to give some structure. Not attached to their names or organization, but hopefully will facilitate future work. MARussellPESE 22:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merger with Child discipline page

There is clearly much overlap in subject matter between the two pages. It looks to me like a case of content forking or POV forking. I think a single more complete, more balanced article could be made by merging the two, instead of having two pages with different points of view on the same subject matter. Also both pages need a lot of work; it seems more efficient to combine them so the people who have time to devote to this can work together more effectively and build a good-quality page. The Child discipline page is rather incomplete, for example representing only one religion. --Coppertwig 02:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Machiavelli's "The Nanny"

I don't think it is fair (or accurate) to claim that "The Prince" is a primer on child-raising. For example, you can't execute one child as a warning to the rest and you can't hire mercenaries.

Also, Isn't there a single non-religious quote advocating corporal punishment of children. It doesn't take a theologian to say "Children can't be reasoned with" or "a parent should be like a benevolent dictator, able to discipline and nurture."

                             -Mike Reason

[edit] Merger Proposal

I've suggested that this bring over text from "Non-violent child discipline". Even through it's non-violent it's still discipline! Help POV I think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.190.112.2 (talk) 16:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The above comment was from me, I forgot sign it in a rush. I've also noted a previous merger proposal ... but with it's? ... perhaps the same one from Coppertwig, 11 Nov 2006 Edgepedia (talk) 06:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Non-punitive discipline ought to come here as well I think. Edgepedia (talk) 09:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Working on it here Edgepedia (talk) 09:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Merger done, and pages redirected here Also I manually fixed the double redirects Pages were Non-punitive discipline and Non-violent child discipline Edgepedia (talk) 15:57, 28 March 2008 (UTC)