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• Does anyone know exactly how many months/years are required at PO1 before they're eligible to go for Chief? I have no idea. - Wguynes 03:53, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Here are the Time In Rate (TIR) Requirements for U.S. Navy Enlisted Advancements (given in months): SR to SA = 9 (w/No exam); SA to SN = 9 (w/No exam); SN to PO3 = 6; PO3 to PO2 = 12; PO2 to PO1 = 36*; PO1 to CPO = 36*; CPO to SCPO = 36 (w/No exam); SCPO to MCPO = 36 (w/No exam). *May be waived up to 1 year for Early Promotes (EP's) for advancement to PO1 or CPO only. Source = U.S. Navy Advancement Center Based upon educational background, work background or incentives for advanced training, certain recruits may enter the Navy as SA or SN.

• I used the insignia from the insignia table page. They're rather small and lacking in detail for use here, but better than nothing. If anyone finds higher quality, larger, and consistent-looking insignia for all the navy enlisted, please feel free to replace these. I think leaving the table page as the small ones is best, however, due to server load. - Wguynes 03:53, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 non-US military CPOs 2 Page move of Chief Petty Officer to Chief petty officer 3 More on Chief Petty Officers in the U.S. Navy 4 Removed Famous Chief Petty Officers 5 Questionable Claim

[edit] non-US military CPOs

Perhaps someone could add something about non-US nations. According to this website [1], Chief Petty Officer is a Royal Navy (i.e. British Navy) rank, not just a U.S. one.

• • Are you volunteering? - Wguynes 00:41, May 3, 2004 (UTC)
    • I'm afraid not, or at least not at the moment. I just thought I'd mention the issue so someone else who knows more about the subject and/or has time to the neccesary research can make the neccesary additions to the entry. Perhaps after exams, and such finish I might do some research myself. Silverfish 00:09, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Page move of Chief Petty Officer to Chief petty officer

This is a title. My understanding is that it should be capitalized across all words. - Wguynes 20:18, May 15, 2004 (UTC)

Who's the one that keeps on stating that the RN has the rank of Warrant officer class 2? I only know of four NCO navy ranks Leading Rate, PO CPO and WO. No WO2

207.159.196.2 18:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

the rank of Warrant Officer Class 2(WO2) was introduced in the Royal Navy in April 2004. It replaced the appointment of 'Charge Chief Petty Officer' for senior CPO technicians. LONDON 29/06/06

[edit] More on Chief Petty Officers in the U.S. Navy

Advancement requirements: the time in rate required for advancement from Petty Officer First Class to Chief Petty Officer has varied over the years according to the needs of the Navy.

Initiation: The Chief's initiation was strictly a post World War II innovation. The initiate's sponsors designed and/or selected a "costume" for the initiate to wear during the initiation. The initiation consisted of a number of tests of "bravery" and "endurance" (in costume), a trial (in costume), and a swearing in (in uniform). At the trial, the initiate was "fined" for his (or her) offenses against the Chief Community. These fines always turned out to be less that what the initiate expected them to be (this was part of the ongoing initiation joke). Chief Petty Officer Clubs hosting these events used the fines to help defray the cost of the event and to pay for presentations and gifts to the selectee and his family. Typical, was one initiation where the selectee received a set of CPO insignia, a plaque commemorating the event, a free dinner for two at the CPO club, and several commemorative certificates. Ex-Chief Warrant Officers and Limited Duty Officers were always welcome at initiations. Any other commisioned officers were by invitation only. The initiation court consisted of a judge, a bailiff, a sheriff, a prosecutor, and a defense attorney of the initiate's choice. The jury consisted of all the CPO's present; the verdict was always guilty. The serious part of the ceremony usually concluded with a reading of the CPO Creed. The creed was written by Admiral Arleigh Burke during his watch as Chief of Naval Operations.

Participation: Participation in the initiation was entirely optional. However, anyone who chose not to undergo the process attached a permanent stigma to themselves. I have over the years run into several people who chose to forgo the CPO initiation. Generally, neither their peers nor their subordinates called them as chief but rather referred to them by their paygrade (E7).

Chief Petty Officer Selection Boards: The President of the Board, the Recorder and several other members are always commissioned officers. The other members of the board are always Master Chief Petty Officers. I think the average CPO board consists of around thirty-five or forty individuals.

Appointments to the grade of Chief Petty Officer seem to be ceremonial only. The NavPers Manual and its predecessor the Bupers Manual, Enlisted Service Record entries, and the U.S. public laws which govern the advancment of Naval enlisted personnel make no metion of appointments.

Forms of address: The last few years have seen the emergence of a trend to address Senior Chief Petty Officers and Master Chief Petty Officers as "Senior" and "Master" respectively. This seems to have been brought back by Chiefs who attended The Army and the Air Forces's senior enlisted leadership acadamies. This does not sit well with old timers who belive the most important thing in the title is the word "Chief."

Oldbubblehead 01:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC) RMCM(SS)/LCDR, USN,(retd)

[edit] Removed Famous Chief Petty Officers

I removed the Famous Chief Petty Officers section. It only contained one link, to Brian Craig. His page said nothing about him even being in the Navy. Athenastreet 00:12, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Other "Famous" Chief Petty Officers: John Tower CPO USNR, US Senator; Bob Feller CPO USN, MLB Hall of Famer

[edit] Questionable Claim

"Advancement into the Chief Petty Officer grades is the most significant promotion within the enlisted naval ranks."

Two problems.

1) "Naval" in the US parlance means the Navy AND the Marines. The Marines probably think advancement to GSGT is the "most significant."

2) Advancement from Seaman (Airman/Fireman) to Petty Officer is at least as significant a promotion.HedgeFundBob 02:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)