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[edit] Classification criteria

How exactly do you decide whether a bond type is "core organic", "many uses", or "academic"? I would call CF, CI, and CS (and maybe CP) "core organic", and I would call CFe "many uses". --Itub 08:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


  • Good question! and your input is more than welcome. I would say core organic chemistry you will find in introductionary organic chemistry textbooks so perhaps not CP. On the other side of the spectrum Organoberyllium should not be controversial and the many users is fuzzy. Another criterion could be commercial availability so CFe (except for ferrocene) would then not meet the mark. By the way your reclassification of the organoxxx pages to category organometallic compounds disregards the fact that many of the articles also cover the chemistry not just the compounds. Historically many articles were already named organoxxx or organoxxxx compounds and therefore the titles are not very consistent V8rik 19:38, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm no expert on ferrocene derivatives, but the article suggests that they have applications beyond academia, which is why I thought it might qualify for "many uses". I agree that C-P might be a bit "inorganic", but would you agree to include C-F and C-I as "core organic"? They are included in any organic chemistry textbook, are found in natural products (at least C-I), have major industrial applications (at least C-F), and are also found in pharmaceuticals.
  • Another category worth considering is "found in biomolecules and natural products", but that would overlap with some of the others.
  • Regarding the organoxxx categories, I thought about it for a moment, but concluded that "organozinc chemistry" (for example) could just be considered to be the chemistry of "organozinc compounds" (which was the title of the page). The same can be said about any articles on chemical compounds; for example, part of sulfuric acid is about "sulfuric acid chemistry". You might say that organozinc compounds are different because it is a group of compounds and not just one specific compound, but we also have other articles on groups of compounds, such as xylenes. However, I recognize that this is a gray area so I wouldn't have strong objections to moving them back (as long as specific compounds such as 1,1'-Bis(diphenylphosphino)ferrocene remain under Category:Organometallic compounds or subcategories thereof). --Itub 11:28, 17 September 2007 (UTC)


  • Thanks for your reply. I have promoted CF and CI to core org chem. I am not sure about the organoiron: it is mostly about ferrocenes. Lets leave the new categories as they are now V8rik 20:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)