Talk:Chelmno extermination camp

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Contents 1 ?? 2 Driver? 3 Eichmann's purported comments 4 Chełmno extermination camp 5 The castle 6 Operation of the Camp: word "Plunder".

[edit] ??

hi im looking for advice for a project i have to pretend like im going to a concentration camp and have to pack a light bag containing what i think ill need in the camp!! help please

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I don't think they had much to take from a Getto. It really depends on who's perspective? A Jew, a Gypsy...a Pole. A mother, a father, a child.... suggest you imagine yourself as a child and remember what was most important to you then. Devoid of race, religion. It's about the core, the immediate emotion of leaving everything..and having perhaps 2 minutes to collect those things that you love the most. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.46.20 (talk) 17:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Driver?

"I then drove the van back to the castle " Should it be "He then drove the van back to the castle" ? Rich Farmbrough 13:00, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Eichmann's purported comments

The comments attributed to Adolf Eichmann need to be correctly sourced and referenced. Kingsbury 22:00, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chełmno extermination camp

Such camp has never existed, the name was Kulmhof.

There is Auschwitz concentration camp, even if the place is called in Polish Oświęcim. Xx236 06:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

This should be moved back - in English language histories, the name Chełmno is invariably used. In common usage, the camp complex at Auschwitz/Oświęcim settled on the German version of the name, the one at Chełmno/Kulmhof on the Polish. Is this inconsistent? Yes. But the page-naming policy is to use the most commonly-recognised term. Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 10:52, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

I've moved it back. The common name in English is "Chelmno extermination camp". English Wikipedia uses common English names. Jayjg ^(talk) 22:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Chelmno extermination camp has never existed. Even English language isn't able to create virtual objects. The article should include German name of the camp - it doesn't.Xx236 10:42, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

There was a death camp, it is named after the nearby village, which has both German and Polish names. The name that is in common use in English for the death camp is the Polish one, Chełmno. That is what the article should have in its title, to conform with usage by historians. You are wrong that the article doesn't include the German name, it includes it in the very first sentence. Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 12:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The article doesn't inform what was the real German name of the camp. The staff was called SS Sonderkommando Kulmhof.Xx236 14:35, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

It does now. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

The problem is more complicated. I bet the Nazis haven't used the name "Vernichtungslager Kulmhof", it's a post-war German name. The same Auschwitz concentration camp informs that Auschwitz II (Birkenau) was "an extermination camp or Vernichtungslager".Xx236 10:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree the German name should be used. Besides, "Chelmno" isn't even the Polish word. --Offensiveword (talk) 16:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The castle

deathcamps.org/occupation/chelmno.html writes "manor house". Xx236 07:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Any details of this castle?159.105.80.141 15:09, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Operation of the Camp: word "Plunder".

The first paragraph states: "....an administration section, barracks and storage for plundered goods;"

I would use "plundered" only if the the goods were stolen violently from the houses of the victims. As this storage probably was for goods stolen from the victims at arrival I think the word "stolen" would be better.

Your opinion is appreciated before I would like to change this. Pukkie 06:39, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Did Mr Burmeister ever tell where the burial site was. If it was done in vans then there must have been an awful lot of trips made to the woods - the trail must still exist. A good chance for forensic verification.159.105.80.141 12:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)